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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-23-2004, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
 
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Project chev-zuki!

I finally got some pics of the new samurai project. This is what I bought for $800.00.

Here are some of the specs
<nobr>chevy</nobr> 3.8L, owner bought alot of the mounts, water pump, and pulleys from <nobr>suzuki</nobr> lightening conversions. He didn't buy a carb because he couldnt figure out how to run the stock motors electric carb. I bought a holley 4412 500CFm rebuilt off ebay for $100.00 with an electric choke



The tranny is an SM420 with a new clutch, flywheel etc,,,,



electric fan is on and wired. It has a 3 core radiator as well.



The body is in good condition, overall. The front passenger corner has faded alot and the hood has a good dent in it. But no rust anywhere!

It has stock zuk axles with the exception of being SPOA and 4.56 gears. I am going to run the stock transfer case. Adding a spool to the rear and a lockright for the front. I run mostly mud and sand so I think the stock axles will survive for awhile. I dont mind breaking a shaft sometimes cause they are cheap. If/when I break a ring and pinion I will replace them with yota's and go further with mods like stretching the wheel base etc.
Anyway thought I'd share with you guys the begining of a new project!
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Sorry I forgot I bought a toyota mini truck hydraulic clutch set-up off ebay for $5.50, a toyota clutch and brake pedal set-up for $13.00. I am adapting those to the tranny and the zuk. I just didnt think the stock zuk cable would hold up to the heavier clutch of the sm420.
I also bought some $F-250 shock mounts for the front for like $10.00, again off ebay, I'll make my own upper shock mounts for the rear.
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that is quite the Project you got there. ALot of work, and good luck, and not to be an a$$ or anything, but i give those axles a week before you go to something stronger. But that looks like a Cool Project. [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
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No biggie dude. I know they will be past there limits. It's just a matter of time. Mud and sand tend to let stuff slip alot longer then rocks.
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I'd like to see pic's of the 3 core radiator. Do you know what <nobr><nobr><a class="iAs" style="border-bottom:darkgreen 1px solid;text-decoration:underline;color:darkgreen;background-color:transparent;" href="#" onclick="return kwC();" target="_blank" oncontextmenu="return false;" onmouseover="kwE(event,217917);" onmouseout="kwL(event);" onmousemove="kwM(217917);"><nobr><a class="iAs" style="border-bottom:darkgreen 1px solid;text-decoration:underline;color:darkgreen;background-color:transparent;" href="#" onclick="return kwC();" target="_blank" oncontextmenu="return false;" onmouseover="kwE(event,217917);" onmouseout="kwL(event);" onmousemove="kwM(217917);">vehicle</nobr></a></nobr></a></nobr> that engine/radiator came out of? I've got the little 2.8 in mine and having cooling problems. Does that have a pusher or puller electric fan? Are ya running power steering?? I'm looking at swaping in a 3.4 or 3.8 sometime soon, just as long as it will mate to the T-5 tranny.
Looks like a nice start, with some bigger axles she should do fine. Hope the stock t-case holds up, not sure how much power it can take???
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I to asked about the radiator. I was todl it came out of a Jeep with a V-8 [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] nothing more specific. I am not sure about the fan I am fairly sure the fan is a pusher. I may have to do something different with it though because it is about 2 or 3" from the radiator.

I also had the same concerns bout the stock x-fer. Talked to both Brent at Trail Tough and Sky at Sky manufacturing. They both agreed it should hold up fine. maybe not forever but long enough to justify using it.

I'll get you some pics of the radiator when I pick it up the samurai in a week or two. I didnt know which 3.8L it had in it, so I did a ton of research. I found that this 3.8L was out of a 1981 chevy caprice classic and is the 229 motor. The main way you can tell is the distributer is in the back. The other 3.8L GM made was a buick 3.8L that is a 231. They both have the same tranny mounting pattern so techinically you could use either. I have heard the buick was a little better motor. But both are good motors and easy to find in salvage yards. The exaust manifolds on mine are within a .25 of an inch of the frame. I may have to notch the frame when I install the exaust pipes. I plan on using 2.5" pipe and flowmaster muffler on each side. If I cant afford flowmaster's then it will be cherry bombs on each side. [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
After I blow the stock zuk axles I plan on installing toyotas and that is when I will add some sort of power steering. Mainly right now I just wanna get the rig up and running. Make sure everything is running good, then I'll deal with the suspension, power steering, etc...
Hope that helps! Zuk JR I have looked at your web site many times in the past when I first got into samurais about4 years ago! [img]images/graemlins/RockOn.gif[/img]
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Cool, thanks! Would like to see how that rad is mounted as well as how much room it has. I need to get a new rad. the ones I keep putting in are from the junk yard and keep leaking. I'm tired of messing with it and just need to get a new one.
My exhaust is about 1/4-1/2 inch away from my frame as well, and I had to remount the brake lines that are mounted on the inside of the engine comp. I might need to get some exhaust wrap for around that area, because it gets really hot and might end up boiling the brake fluid.

I'm also not too sure if the 3.8's tranny mounting pattern is the same as the 2.8's? I know the 3.4L is a bolt in replacement for the weak 2.8L, but I guess I need to do a little research'n too [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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www.pirate4x4.com is where I learn alot of crap at. They got a rep. for being hard on people but the tech I have learned there is unbeleiveable. The radaitor seems to be slightly narrower then the stock one but much deeper(thicker) and probaby 6-8" longer. It fits really well. Still got a couple of inches clearence between it and the pulleys.

Is your 2.8L out of chevy or a ford. For some reason I was thinking it was out of a ford ranger or something.......but if it was out of a chevy then just about anything chevy should bolt up to it.
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Yeah, I've been on Pirate before [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] But haven't posted much there, just read alot.
The 2.8 is out of a Jeep Cherokee Chief, it is the GM 2.8 (the bad one) and it runs good, just need to work out the cooling problems and I think the carb needs tuned. Lot more torque and hp then before [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] but needs to smooth out a bit.
I really wanted to put a 3.4 or 3.8L in, but the 2.8 was free and figured that I could swap the 2.8 for the 3.4 or 3.8 easy after I get the hard part done.
Thanks for the info on the rad. I'm running the stock rad that came out of the Heep with a 12" pusher fan (that was on Tim Porters V8 Sami)
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I'm not for sure but I think those had a 60deg. pattern instead of a 90 deg. mpounting pattern for the tranny's. I got some more searching to do on this stuff so if I come across anything I'll let you know!

Free motors can make for some very ceap/good swaps!
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This is what I could find real quick like for you. I'm sure you already know it. But anyway Maybe someone else can use the info in the future

3.8 out of a front wheel drive or rear whe<nobr>el drive O</nobr>ldsmobile? The older RWD 3.8's used the BOPC bellhousing pattern and the newer 3.8's used in FWD cars use the GM 60 degree bellhousing pattern, for the FWD motor a 700R4 from an S-10 with a 2.8L will bolt up, for the RWD motor, and BOPC TH400 or TH350 will bolt up, and there is an inexpensive bellhousing adapter to adapt it to the <nobr>stand</nobr>ard Chevy pattern, as well as the varios manual transmissions. As for t-cases, well, pretty much anything you want if you search around enough, but facory combos will probably be limited to the NP203/205/207/208/231/241

If you're looking to put this in that Nissan 720, and if that Nissan 720 runs the divorced t-case (my '84 does) then you could use any 2wd GM automatic or manual with the stock T-case, I used to wheel with a fella running a 327/TH350 in front of the stock Nissan case with stock (lifted) IFS front and stock rear axle, running 38" Gumbos, the only things he broke a lot of were ball-joints and wheel bearings.
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