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Land use- concerning Beacon in Chester Mass.

This is from one of the land use folks in the area.

It has finally officially happend to us out here in New England... Yes,
Beacon had an absentee owner who turned a blind eye to people wheeling his property
and most clubs that did go there didn't officially have permission to be
there.. BUT Our worst nightmare has come to light... The Nature Conservancy will
be finalizing the purchase of the property within a couple of months. The
property is from here on in FULLY CLOSED. I won't get into the slightly pointed
conversation that I had with one Rob Warren.
He mentioned that TNC would like to have a co-operative relationaship with
the 4WD community.... after some prodding... I found that this means that TNC
policy is NO MOTORIZED USE and by co-operating it means we will not go there
anymore... Co-operating to TNC does NOT mean compromise... I am so pent with
anger, I can hardly type straight...

There is nothing more to say... Please cancel all upcoming Beacon runs.

If you'd like to call Mr. Warren and ask him about this, he said it was OK to
give his number: 1-617-227-7017 X320

please fwd this any and all of your own lists (anyone who should know that
Beacon is closed.) Sorry to any who have rec'd this twice... reading this once
is bad enough.
Also, Rob Warren said he was working on contacting the other organizations in
the area, so, I'm guessing some of you will hear from him soon if you haven't
already.

Talk soon,
David Brill
Land Use Chair. East Coast 4WD Assn.
Land Use Chair. Region D/Northeast, EC4WDA
V.Pres, Land Use; Eastern 4 Wheelers
Blue Ribbon Coalition, Tread Lightly!, NAMRC
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WallyWorld, CT

I know nothing other than this. View it as closed and
you will likly be arrested if you trespass.
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Re: Land use- concerning Beacon in Chester Mass.

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ECO-NAZIS!! TNC has a spot in my home town. The ATC already has the App Trail through the property. After TNC took the property over, they tried to reomve the AT in court. That's right, TNC thought the AT would damage the ecosystem!

Well, the feds one that one. But even still, they try to roost long-haul hikers out of the preserve if they try to tent there. They even tore down a AT lean too built by the CCC.

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That really freakin' blows!! That was my favorite around here by far!! I'm speachless.... What's next? [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Wow... there is really nothing anyone can do at this point it looks like, is there? Everyday it seems the land is being cut off from use or destroyed with no middle grounds. I never had a chance to go there either. Darn, Tomkat and I were just talking about it too.

Sucks seeing this stuff happen.
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Well maybe if ya have 300,000 laying around and they didn't sign anything yet..
Looks like it is a done deal.
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LOL!!! Funny, Glenn.

You know me, F'in N'orkas can't keep their noses out of others biz.

I called him yesterday. I told him I was a no body, but extended an olive branch and tried to get him to believe that it would eb best to work an arrangement for limited 4wd access with a local group in exchange for the club handling trail maintenance/erosion control. I told him that a similar aggrement was struck in NY between HV4wheelers and Scenic Hudson over Mt. Beacon, NY. He had some interest, mostly about how this was the settlement they reached to end the legal challenges put forward by the 4x4 club.

He had a lot more interest when I told him that his deal was not done and that local 4x4 groups may be working together to comr up with the money to make a counteroffer to the owner and stop TNC's purchase. In fact, he got down right panicy. He said that he felt "threathened" by the 4wheelers trying to buy it. So I went back to the beginning and said that the 4wheelers felt threatened by TNC's cease and dissist.

In the end, he agreed that it might be best to extend an "olive branch" to the clubs. I told him the importance of maintaining fire road access, soil erosion contol, litter clean-up and unauthorized motorized traffic restriction. I told him currently these tasks have been done for years by the clubs. That by working with the clubs, it can still be done by the clubs at clubs expense, freeing up TNC cash reserves to be applied elsewhere. It also means that TNC doesn't have to spend so much time/money fighting the losing battle of keeping motorized traffic off the land (particularly teenagers with quads, whicheven he admitted is the main concern, not the Jeepers.)

Being a Environmental Science & Conservation major, I reminded him that there is a difference between "conservation" and "preservation". And they are Nature "Conservationists", not preservationists. Surprisingly, he agreed!

In all, we were on the phone for about a half hour. And it was a good conversation ending with him saying that he will speak with the other tree-huggers (I added that) and see if there is room to work with the clubs for an agreement of some limited access in exchange for maintenance.

Glenn, I prolly shot from my hip, but based on the letter you posted, there wasn't anything to lose. Maybe, just maybe, some logic was exchanged.

If not, he's in a panic that they might lose the deal if a bid war breaks out. (I even told him a Powerball winner might back the 4x4 purchase) [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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You know anyone that might have a very wealthy girlfriend? LOL
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John Kerry..no, wait, that's his wife.

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thats a bummer, its my favorite trail. I am glad I made it to the top without a winch or strap before it did close. That waterfall (rock garden, what ever) kicked my butt for years and I built my rig over the years to conquer that section. Wildweasel is the only one I saw make it out of all the times I went there.
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