Prejudice against Samurai's? - Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups
Suzuki GEO All Discussion of all things, Suzuki and GEO

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 785
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

After completing the finishing touches yesterday, I took my Zuk to a NJ inspection station. After sitting in line for 40 minutes, I finally pull up to the front of the line.

The state employee takes my licence, registration, and insurance card, and tells me to go wait inside. About a minute later, they call me back out. The guy then explains that I am going to have to get a stablity test before inspection, and that I would have to drive to another station to take that test.

My Zuk is SPOA, and currently sits on 31"s. As I turn around, I see a Heep with a similar setup, and nobody said a word to him. When I asked the state worker what caused him to flag my vehicle, he simply replied "everyone knows that these things flip real easy!"

I then drove 40 minutes to the next inspection station, and waited in line for 20 minutes to be told that I had to make an appointment to take the stability test. Then I waited over an hour to make the appointment. After wasting most of a day playing around with the NJ DMV, I still have to go back again!

[img]images/graemlins/cussing.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/chair.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/spank.gif[/img]

[img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] NJ DMV


JerseyZuks is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 10:35 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,009
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

I am curious how they test its stability i bet if they rode in mine they would need to be pried off the o sh#t bar and I am on wrangler springs and spoa with a rear locker I often take a turn and most swear it isnt going to make it till the locker spools and pulls it around

By the way I have found mine to be stable to 40 degrees
szki272 is offline  
post #3 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 11:04 AM
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 159
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

Blame it on the Consumer Reports conspiracy and all of the ego's involved there. The Samurai got branded, Consumer Reports got to flex its muscles, and now Samurai owners are stigmatized (as in your case), and North American consumer choice is restricted.
dreadsword is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 11:19 AM
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 503
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

They say that Zuks roll over easily, but I have yet to see it. The exploder had a "real world" roll over problem; but lets lay the blame on Firestone. Funny thing is after Ford redesigned the suspention system the tires stopped blowing out. And then there was Sam Winston founder of the Winston tire chain. He was killed in a roll over of a bone stock Wrangler.
What you are encountering is a governmrnt conspiricy to get the vechiles they don't want you to have off the road; and get you into something they deem is PC.
[img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img]
ZippytheZuke is offline  
post #5 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 785
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
I am curious how they test its stability

[/ QUOTE ]

First they weigh the vehicle.

Then they put the vehicle up on a ramp with a scale under the lower tires. They run the weights through a computer, and find out at what angle the vehicle tips over.

Next they have a checklist to make sure the bumpers are a certain height from the ground, the headlights and breaklights are a certain height from the ground, etc.

Then they check over the suspension and steering to make sure nothing scary has been done.

When I get a chance, I'll grab the checklist out of my Zuk and post a few more specifics.



I don't mind the state doing a safety check. Every one of us has seen some scary stuff done to lift a vehicle. I understand that they are just trying to keep some of these vehicles off the road, or make them safer. What I don't like is that my Zuk was pulled out of a line without any measurements being taken, just because it was a Zuk. How many Heeps on 31"s or even 33"s do you thing go through a tilt test? My guess is none.
JerseyZuks is offline  
post #6 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 12:04 PM
Old Hand
 
zuku26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Chicago Il
Posts: 553
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

Funny this thread came up. I was watching Real TV the other day when they showed some footage of winter road ice carnage. They showed a sammy hit black ice on the express way here in chicago, and went into a spin out. It finally went backwards into the middle wall. They ended the clip there but it looked as if the sammy stayed on all fours.
zuku26 is offline  
post #7 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 12:23 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
daxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: socialist lib heaven mASS
Posts: 3,460
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

I have that vid clip of the sami spinning on the ice somewhere around here..I'll see if i can dig it up.

~daxe
daxe is offline  
post #8 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 12:37 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 129
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

People are just dumb, and some even do it cuase they are jealous. Samurais are stable little suckers, and it really all comes down to on how you drive it. Some of the sidekicks when they first started building them did roll, but not many at all, and they fixed that right up. (also mistaking samurais and sidekicks as the same) Jeeps have more of a tendency to roll. And even on trails Ive seen a few zuks roll but they were taking them to the limits and when they did they put it back up right and drove off. Jeeps on the other hand I saw one roll down a wimpy hill, that thing may never drive again. Zuks rule, Jeeps [img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] And we all know the DMV-inspections just plain SUCK.
sycogirl2002 is offline  
post #9 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 02:48 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Northwest Corner, Connecticut
Posts: 2,382
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

I think I solved the rollover problem... 600+ pounds of tires wheels and axles... and width too!

I was never nervous on the street... I usually kept it slow. Though, in the woods I have rolled twice... that was more my lack of driving skill than anything else.
CTBrent is offline  
post #10 of (permalink) Old 10-11-2003, 04:00 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
zooky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,844
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Prejudice against Samurai\'s?

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
I think I solved the rollover problem... 600+ pounds of tires wheels and axles

[/ QUOTE ] I thought the same thing [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
what engine you running BTW?
zooky is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome