Other motor options..how difficult to adapt? - Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups
Suzuki GEO All Discussion of all things, Suzuki and GEO

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 08:45 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

Just saw this Toyota Echo motor on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33615

Specs: 1.5L, [email protected], 104Ft/[email protected] specs, good bit higher than the 1.6 track/kick in stock trim. My question is assuming it fits in how hard to connect it up? Motor mounts of course, wiring and sensors, what about connecting to the tranny? Some sort of custom coupler for the crank/flywheel/clutch? This would probably double the current output of my stock 1.3... just thinking
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1199897-2d_1_s.JPG (26.1 KB, 21 views)
AZtoyguy !! is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 08:52 PM
Old Hand
 
bradzuki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Oak Ridge, TN
Posts: 1,074
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

Have you seen how much it costs for a 16v swap?

Take that and double, or maybe even triple it and you'd be somewhere in the ballpark.


Brad.
bradzuki is offline  
post #3 of (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 08:53 PM
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 2,381
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

as far as connecting to the tranny you might be able to get off with a 4wd pickup tranny or something like that, but considering the trouble you would go through for the power output etc...you mine as well 16v it, or do it just to say your samurai has a echo motor engine in it [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
studlybil03 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 09:46 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
purevil71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Bedford Indiana
Posts: 2,737
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

A Suzuki Swift motor has about that much HP and goes in a lot easier too...Just a thought!
purevil71 is offline  
post #5 of (permalink) Old 10-08-2003, 10:10 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
daxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: socialist lib heaven mASS
Posts: 3,460
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

CAnt tell ya about how easy it is to get that motor into a sami, but I drive an Echo and I can tell ya the motor doesnt feel as ballsy as the numbers sound. I believe the echo is lighter than a sami, too. Its a lot ballsier than the 1.3 in my sami, but the 1.3 deals with really low revs a lot better, in my opinion.

The motor is worthless below 2000, starts to come on around 2500, pulls great from about 2750 up to about 4000 and keeps pulling after that, though not as strongly.

Would be interesting to see how the swap worked though!

~daxe
daxe is offline  
post #6 of (permalink) Old 10-09-2003, 12:26 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 323
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

Not to mention the wiring! All the sensors, and the variable valve timing? The harness would be a mess! For the same cost you can get a 16v 1.6 that would take less work, and is easier to build up. You'll appreciate the torque difference as well!
casper is offline  
post #7 of (permalink) Old 10-09-2003, 06:07 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
daxe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: socialist lib heaven mASS
Posts: 3,460
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

</font><blockquote><font class="small">In reply to:</font><hr />
variable valve timing

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah..I was thinking about this today while I was driving around. What a nightmare it would be to get that working right! PLus I dont think the motor sits straight up and down..I imagine that would have something to do with how the oil is picked up and stuff. The VVT is triggered by oil pressure through little tiny passages, I can see tilting the motor up straight to put it in to have some kinda effect on that somehow.

Wonder about a 2.0 DOHC motor out of a NEon. There's lots of them around..150HP, decent torque. I had a 97 Neon ACR that was pretty quick. That motor would be fun in a sami.

~daxe
daxe is offline  
post #8 of (permalink) Old 10-09-2003, 08:37 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 323
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

At that point, might as well use the 2.0 from a Vitara! At least is Suzuki, and designed to be mounted the same way.
casper is offline  
post #9 of (permalink) Old 10-09-2003, 11:48 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 139
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: Other motor options..how difficult to adapt?

jlb1001 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome