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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-28-2003, 03:47 PM
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Car dolleying Samurai

I am most likely going to pick up a samurai(4wd) later this week, and use a car dolley. So i went to the Uhaul website, and they suggested disconnecting the drive shaft in order to dolley it properly. This seemed weird to me, because of the number of people that tow these vehicles behind them? I was just planing on unlocking the Hubs, putting the Tranny in Neutral and off i go? what would you suggest. I have about 60 miles on the highway to go with it. [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: Car dolleying Samurai

best as i kin remember, from the owners manual, think its neutral on the t/c and 2ns on the tranny. yes, for long distances id drop the rear shaft without a doubt, but if 50 miles is all you gotta tow it, i wouldnt even mess with droppin the shaft. just got a tracker delivered to me today, dollyed all the way up here, im guessin 100+ miles, shaft still in it. never dropped it.
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Re: Car dolleying Samurai

ay t/c in neutral and tranny in 2nd

i dont like that
i have done both this and t/c and trany in neutral for 150 miles

but i say safe than sorry 15 min 8 bolts remove the drive shaft

if you hit a bump and it goes in grear it will trash you motor

i have seen it happen also dont remove one side and hang it under the zuk
it will come apart and you will loose half your shaft
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Re: Car dolleying Samurai

flat tow mine all the time but always drop the drive shaft. Quick, easy, safe.

RE: "i have seen it happen also dont remove one side and hang it under the zuk
it will come apart and you will loose half your shaft"

I remove the bolts on the third member and zip tie the driveshaft up to the bottom of the zuk through the flange holes.

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Re: Car dolleying Samurai

tranny in second gear, that seems really weird, how does that work? It looks like i will be removing the driveshaft just to be safe. [img]images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Re: Car dolleying Samurai

You do put the t-case in Nuetral and the tranny in 2nd Gear. Reason you do this is because a Samuri Tansfer case is not a True nuetral case. So when the rear is spinning the driveshaft still drives the main shaft in the tranny through to the transmission.

If you left the tranny in nuetral the output shaft would spin freely and eventually burn out the bearings because they do not get oiled correctly. By putting the Tranny in 2nd gear the gears spin oil up onto the bearing and gear surfaces thuse preventing them from overheating.

You make the decision, many folks flat tow their ZUKs with no problems. Get a GRS tcase in the future and you will get a True neutral Tcase.

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If you left the tranny in nuetral the output shaft would spin freely and eventually burn out the bearings because they do not get oiled correctly. By putting the Tranny in 2nd gear the gears spin oil up onto the bearing and gear surfaces thuse preventing them from overheating.


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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.... I disagree. The only way gears are going to spin inside the transmission is if you have it in gear and the motor is spinning. That's why you have to fire up the samurai and drive it around for ~~ 5 minutes or so, to recirculate the oil in the tranny and x-fer as it does under normal conditions.

You put the transmission into gear so the transmission is not in neutral, nothing inside the tranny will spin. Therefore, since the input shaft on the transfer case is not spinning, oil is not circulated correctly (as I interpreted it.....!).

Go buy some blue locktite, spend 10 minutes and remove the rear driveshaft (be carefull and don't bash your knuckles, make sure that the 2 halves do not seperate!).

That is my 2 copper bits.
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Tcase in neutral, tranny in 2nd and a few thousands miles without any problem....
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hehehe, the dolly tires are larger than the kicker's tires, lol
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Easy there.... Those tires are almost as big as the 29's swampers that you're running.
Besides.......they were really cheap!
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