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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-28-2003, 10:17 AM Thread Starter
 
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hi steer questions

i have a question for the hi steer

i have looked at the breeze setup and its ok here are the questions

can i not incorperate the bottom to hang over the kingpin area and use longer bolts to tie this in

also it still leaves the under the springs cross piece

the mercedees arms are not flat they rasie the piviot up another inch or so higher than breeze and higher over stock

could you not raise it up with something like breeze on both sides and bring the cross over piece up as well then tie in a piece down to the stock location so it would be attached at the calipers and the king ping and the stock location or leave out the king pin over hang

the prob with the benz is it push pressure much higher and off of the piviot point

would it hurt anything if you just went with the caliper mount and the down piece to the stock area

below pics from breeze and the benz hi steer




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Re: hi steer questions

Here is my version of my Yota high steer Yota high steer web page
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Nice tires!!! What are they??
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dont know not mine

here are mine


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Re: hi steer questions

something like that
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Re: hi steer questions

tires are Simex Jungle Trekkers

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Not to change subjects but the simex tires are nice looking and available in a 34x11.5 . Wonder if anyone imports them ?
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Re: hi steer questions

one other thing to not about the mercedes arms is that they also mess with the ackerman angles.
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according to what I was able to gain on the web, Simex tires are very expensive. They have "Armored" sidewalls, whatever that means.

Maybe start a thread in here with Simex tires in the title and some of the UK guys will chime in with info. OK..I'll do that now. Glad I suggested it.

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Re: hi steer questions

The Ackerman angles mentioned are well depicted in your second pic of the Breeze setup. (The orange
arm) The stock tierod, the part that matters to Ackerman, is set well outside the kingpin axis. The
breeze is set well inside. 0 deg Ackerman would be somewhere between the two.

Many race cars run 0 deg Ackerman, but they are steering with the throttle and want the front wheels
pointing the direction they want to go, a very different and extreme way of driving.

If the tie rod was behind the kingpin instead of in front, you would want it about as far inside as you
see the Breeze arm positioned, only behind. The Mercedes arms are about the same deal and angle
as the Breeze. The Breeze gets away with it only because its the drag link instead of the tie rod, no
Ackerman is involved. The Mercedes does affect Ackerman since it also positions the tierod.

The thing preventing a correct Ackerman angle with Hi steer is the disk brake rotor and tire/rim is in the way.
To get it tha high, it gets into interference with those parts.
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