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OK here's the thing. I've kept the build-up mild because the tintop spends most of the time onroad. We've been doing some trails, pipelines and a bit of flexing/climbing in a gravel pit. Don't see doing anything "extreme". We're reaching the limits of what the zuke can do unlocked. I don't want to spend for airlocker(s) and am wary of a locker in the rear for winter daily driving..so my son says put a locker front only. Does this make sense? Better than none but worth the bother?

BTW, my buddy with the Heep is jealous..my only mod is RUF/CJ, he has lifted Skyjackers/shocks..I flex and go..he lifts a wheel and stops [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
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Re: Front locker only..opinions?

IMO I'd rather have a front locker if I were only gonna use one.

I look at it like this-------a rear locker is good & all, but when you pull up to something & bump your front tire to it the rear is trying to push the front over. You can sit & spin & not go anywhere.

With a front locker, you pull up to something & get a tire on it & it will pull you up & over. Pull is usually better than push.

I lucked up on this by accident. A car hit my samurai in the front DS tire. It bent the axle housing, so I bought another samurai for $300 to replace it. The "new" samurai had welded diffs. front & rear. It was like a day & night difference. I could get over stuff that my buddies would pull up to & just dig holes.

Plus, you get the on-road feel of a stock vehicle.

Better start lifting weights or get power steering, after a few hours in the woods you'll feel like Popeye.

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Re: Front locker only..opinions?

I got my sami locked in the front only & wheeled it like that 4 a year or so. The only reason I got a locker in the rear was I blew out a pinion & the new piggy I put in happen to be welded (I didn't know it at the time). IMO, I'd say go 4 it and sit and listen to your heep buddy cuss you on the trail as you slide over stuff and he struggles with everything... [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Honestly (& this is just me). I've had more problems running my Swamper TSL's in the snow than I have running a rear locker in the snow (my spare set of MT's run much better in the snow on the sami). After you get used to the way your sami handles, driving it is not really that big a deal. Just take it easy untill you do get used to it's new handeling quirks. [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
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Mine's locked front only.and I love it.The only disadvantage that Ive seen is wheeling an extremely steep hill,the weight transfer goes straight to the rear wheels and I have spun a little.Everything else you crawl over,just like a locked rear.
BTW-You might be fine with the 29s and no p/s.Ive got 235s which is just about the same size and although you know the locker is there,I dont think its bad at all.
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Better start lifting weights or get power steering, after a few hours in the woods you'll feel like Popeye.

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I know the axle locks up when 1 side starts to spin..when does it unlock again? Gotta stop? when it unloads?

Also, If I'm using 4wd on snowy roads will it lock up and not steer?? Will it be a problem if my wife or daughter are driving it around town in the winter... [img]images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Re: Front locker only..opinions?

I'm watching this thread, too, toyguy. I am taking my spool out of the rear end in my truck to make it more usable in the winter. I know some people think its fine to drive in the snow when they're locked and some people even prefer it, but I chose to believe the people who say it doesnt help. I know putting the spool in the rear didn't help my turning on the street or trail, so it stands to reason it is going tobe even worse in the snow. As for the front, I hear that driving in 4wd with a locked front is just scary on the road. You turn, the truck doesn't. Nice recipe for ending up in a ditch, a tree or someone else's bumper.

I'm staying open just for winter unless or until I can get some ARBs or the like.

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------> "I could get over stuff that my buddies would pull up to &amp; just dig holes."


Just curious. Did your buddy have a rear locker?
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I know the axle locks up when 1 side starts to spin..when does it unlock again? Gotta stop? when it unloads?


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Dunno the answer to this. Mine's welded front &amp; rear, no lock/unlock.

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Just curious. Did your buddy have a rear locker?

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As for the front, I hear that driving in 4wd with a locked front is just scary on the road. You turn, the truck doesn't. Nice recipe for ending up in a ditch, a tree or someone else's bumper

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I would say this is true. I forgot about ya'll being "up there", you get lots more snow than us. I usually ride around after it snows an inch or so &amp; pull people out of the ditches. It gets crazy 'round here if it snow 2 or 3 inches, the only vehicles on the road are mostly not street legal.


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If you get the zuk hopping or bounceing the front with a locker, you can run the risk of breaking a birf or complete axle. Just a thought. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: Front locker only..opinions?

Toyguy, if you need to run four wheel in the snow, I wouldn't recommend a locker in the front. I'm locked front and rear, and I live in western PA, so I know what the roads get like in the winter. The locker in the back isn't bad, its my daily driver, and I don't have any problems. For on road driving in the winter with the locker, I rarely put it in four wheel. When you do put it in four wheel it sucks to drive on the road. About the unlock, lock thing, the unless you get an ARB, you'll be running an EZ locker, or a Lockright. They're always locked, they generally only unlock through turns, atleast when driven correctly through the turn, or when you push in the clutch. The gears will over-run one another when one tire is being forced to spin faster, like the outside tire through a turn, so the gears will ratchet over one another, then re-lock once through the turn. By the way, not to sound sexist, its very feasible for a woman to drive with the locker in the rear. My girlfriend drives mine with no problem, and that is excluding the nine inches of lift on top of that. Hope this helps, if you have any more questions about driving with lockers I'd be more than happy to try and answer what I can.
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