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Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is it?

How much trouble is it to install a fold down windshield in a Sammy? I know I have to add the hinges, do I have to support the dash or is it self supporting?
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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is it?

The dash is self supporting. The install is very easy. One mod I would make is the metal hinges and get rid of the stock plastic ones that come with the kit. [img]images/graemlins/RockOn.gif[/img]
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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is it?

The pre 86 SJ's came with the folding windshield. No issues. Do one thing though, take a 1x4 and make a
full width of the hood load spreader. Find some plastic chair leg caps the right size to fit the stand offs to
locate it and screw them to the top. Then cover the botton surface thats on the hood with carpet. Other
wise the bouncing will take the skin and hood braces and separate them colapsing the braces and possibly
the hood. a hood strap helps to keep it from bouncing.

Now why would I know that? (Thanks to the prev owners...)
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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is it?

I haven't seen the metal hinges and I'd like to know more.

The biggest problem I had with the plastic hinges is the ground through the upper door rails was marginal so I ended up tearing out my dash and wiring harness to troubleshoot the windshield wiper failure. The metal plates had provided a ground. I ended up adding a grounding wire from the body to the wiper motor (with a plug, of course).

Following is the longer, boring reason that I chased this problem through the wiring harness:

When I bought the Samurai, the windshield wipers didn’t work. I bought the fold down kit, mounted it, and folded the windshield down to find the wiper motor had been unplugged. I plugged it in, folded the windshield back up and tested it. The wiper motor worked in all three speeds.

Next, I tested the washer fluid pump. I could hear it running so I added fluid. I ran the pump and it made noise but nothing came out of the nozzles. I checked the hose and could see fluid in it so I pumped some more. Still, no fluid out of the nozzles. However, there was plenty of fluid on the floorboard. The hose had been run up behind the dash but not to the nozzles and I hadn’t noticed it when the windshield was folded down. Easy enough to fix, problem solved.

But the wiper motor didn’t work anymore and I could smell hot electrics when the power was on. I assumed that I had douched an exposed connection so I gave it a day to dry. Next day, same thing, no wipers and there was still a hot smell.

In chasing down the problem, I found one connector with some residue from the washer fluid, but it had nothing to do with the wipers. It was after I checked the switches and I was checking voltage levels at the plug for the wiper motor that I realized there was no ground wire in the plug. I ran a ground wire for a test, and the wipers worked again.

Then I kicked myself for taking the long way, while I put the dash back together. I should have known better (I work on much more complicated equipment for a living and I have a degree in electronics).

BTW for those that have read this far and don’t already know, the dash comes off quite easily, but getting it back on takes eight (very small) hands.
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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is

I am thinking or using some extra door hinges I have ? Think that will work ?

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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is

This might help. Jim Folddown Kit
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getting it back on takes eight (very small) hands

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That's news to me! I put my dash back on last weekend using just my two rather large hands. And a philips screwdriver. It wasn't even what I'd call really challenging. I expected it to be a lot harder than it was.

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Daxe, did you leave out theside defroster hoses? [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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That's news to me! I put my dash back on last weekend using just my two rather large hands. And a philips screwdriver. It wasn't even what I'd call really challenging. I expected it to be a lot harder than it was.

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Re: Fold down Sammy windshield How much Trouble is

Yeah!! Do it it's my FAV mod!!
That and removable doors.


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