Re: Weekend wheeling pic !
Awesome pictures! Nice Zuk!
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I checked with the forest service and they were happy that we wanted to clean the trail ! It seems that they are so understaffed that they cant keep all the trails even close to being open . The only thing they asked was to not make new trails . With that said there are so many trails up there we will be clearing the existing ones for years .
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I wish the Forest Serpents out here in California were as accomodating as yours are! If we clear a naturally or illegally blocked road, even an RS-2477 protected road, we get fined or jailed for "maintaining a public road without a permit" and then they give us some B.S. about how the road is supposedly closed to motor vehicles anyway! Hah! The USFS has no right to close ANY road, trail, or other right-of-way that existed prior to 1976, so says the United States Congress. They can only close roads that they created after 1976; any pre-existing trail is a PUBLIC right-of-way.
We have a family friend in Tahoe who was fined by some USFS Rangers for "maintaining a public road without a permit" when he used his tractor to clear a small area of snow along the unplowed road to Echo Lake for another cabinowner whose vehicle had gotten stuck along that road. That cabinowner also happens to be a federal court attorney. [img]images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
[img]images/graemlins/AR15firing.gif[/img] The funny thing is, they don't give permits to the public to do this. But a permit isn't even needed, because not only is this a PUBLIC right-of-way, but they also have an additional right-of-way since that is their access to their property. But the USFS fights everyone every step of the way. [img]images/graemlins/chair.gif[/img] This case is now working its way up through the courts, with you-know-who as the defense attorney. [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
Unfortunately, this is how conflicts with the USFS typically go around here. They bully their way around until somebody finally has the guts to take them to court. Once it looks like they're going to lose, they drop the case and lose that one particular battle. But they continue to try to win through attrition, figuring that with persistence, the public will get tired of the constant fighting and just give up and let the USFS close off everything to everyone but the Sierra Clubbers. [img]images/graemlins/scs.gif[/img]
Sorry about the rant. Your post just made me want to move to Virginia, or back to West Virginia, where the public still has rights.
-- Geoff Beasley