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Dxray 05-14-2003 12:42 AM

Why do engine swaps
 
I really want to slap in a 1.6 16v in my sammi. But that means i have to have a donor vehicule with the engine, harness and ecm. Then i thought y not keep the engine in there and use that tracker/kick. Much easier. Do people do this for like something to do? or just want their sammies to go faster and have more power? I dunno, i'v been thinking too much lately.

Doomhammer 05-14-2003 01:35 AM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
You don't really need a donor vehicle, you can order the kit that comes with everything for swap from Brent at Trail tough. It cost me 2,300 dollars with shipping, But it was definetly worth every penny. [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Ionsponge 05-14-2003 07:42 AM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
If the question is why not just drive the Tracker/Sidekick, I'll admit they are a more plush, but a stock 'kick is about as gutless as a stock samurai.

I like the boxyness / ruffer (?) look of the Sam and when you give the 'kicks engine a chance to lose the weight of it's donor and drop it in a (hopefully) lighter samurai, you get a big boost in power... The 'kicks back end doesn't squat when you launch, the 'kicks tires won't bark in second (although... I must say I am killing this AutoZone clutch already), and until the aerodynamics of driving a brick over 65 MPH come into play. I'd wager there is probably 4 or 5 car lengths between them.

That power came with fuel injection. This means wonderful starts in any kind of weather, the engine will run at almost any angle, and better fuel economy.

The biggest payoff I have for doing the swap is the flat out surprise I give my competitors who try to ace my lane at the intersection or toll booth. I am not the fastest car on the road, but the list of drivers that have to merge behind me and think, "my god, a samurai is faster than my (insert name here) Oh, the humiliation" keeps growing and growing and growing.... After being the courtious driver who by size and (lack of) might was forced to drive in the slow lane on inclines and/or draft vehicles on trips, it is nice to choose where and when I wanna be. Being the only Samurai in almost any parking lot for some reason is important to me to.... Dunno, Gots to be different.

My 2 cents [img]images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

**DONOTDELETE** 05-14-2003 08:43 AM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
Most of the donor Suzukis I've seen have been rolled. My donor vehicle was a well-used 1983 VW station wagon (for the diesel). Given the choice, I'd much prefer to drive my Zuk than an old station wagon or a rolled Kick - wouldn't you? I agree, though - if the donor vehicle is straight, I wouldn't use it as a donor vehicle (just as most organ donors no longer need the parts they're donating, for whatever reason).

daxe 05-14-2003 09:53 AM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
a tracker/kick is a lot more involved in turning into a serious offoradable rig, from what I have observed. The IFS limits your options for lifting unless you want to swap in a solid axle, which is obviously more involved than most of the ways people lift samurais. Plus, if you already have a bunch of work and mods into your sami, why throw it all away?

~daxe

blue_zuk 05-14-2003 10:46 AM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
if samurais came from the factory with enough power to keep up with hiway traffic then not as many people would be swapping engines.

also, if zuk 1.3s were as durable as a toyota 22r/22re then people wouldn't need to replace them. if you are gonna replace a "tired" engine, why replace it with another one-legged dog when you have a ton of choices to make the zuk far more enjoyable to drive?

GRW 05-14-2003 01:45 PM

Re: Why do engine swaps
 
Find someone with a 1.6 16V and go for a ride [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


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