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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-13-2003, 06:09 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hi i,ve just sold my 85 chevy 4x4 and bought a 87 extended samurai jeep.With the gas prices going up it was time to change.It is completly stock and in great shape compared to others that i have looked at that were in need of some new sheetmetal.

I,m going to be useing it to get to work and to go scouting and hunting mostly.I want to put on some 235/75/15 mud tires on it.I would love to put on some 31 inch tires but for the places i go its not worth the stress on the drivetrain.

My questions are

What type of lift should i use to fit either 235 or 29/8.5 TSL super swampers on it.(don,t really need them but they look awesome)

Will a 2 inch body lift be enough to fit them.

I really don,t want to lose to much handling and i heard that a spring over will affect the handling.

I,ve heard of shackel reverse but don t know to much of them.

Will the little 1.3 be able to pull the tires without a gear reduction and will the drivetrain hold up.

All of the work will be done by myself in my garage as i really can not afford to buy a lift kit.I'd rather put the money into some good mud tires.

Also have any of you welded the rear end of your jeeps i know one of the best welders around here pretty good but would like to know if the rest of the rear end will hold up after being welded.

Excuse my english as it is a bit rusty.I lived in Kitimat B.C for 15 years but have been living in a french town in New Brunswick for 17 years now so my use of english is pretty rare now.

Thanks in advance for the help and i am looking forward to some great conversation here.See ya [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]

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Here's my suggestion: Until you are ready, willing and able to go all-out (engineered lift with gear reduction for 32s or better), keep it as close to stock as you can. The little 1.3 (in my experience) is greatly affected by the slightest of impedence - a gust of wind in the wrong direction will knock you back by 5 miles per hour, and just an inch more tire height will inhibit overall performance noticeably. My 87 pulled 31s and 32s, but it wasn't fun until I reduced the gearing in the transfer case. Enjoy it as-is and save up and research in the meantime.

I know that's hard to do. I speak from experience. In hindsight, there are many things I would have done differently on my truck, and I often wish I'd just waited until I'd done my homework. Not that I've done anything wrong or bad, mind you - exept perhaps the little Rancho shocks.

By the way, no need to apologize for your English. You're doing better than many of the other posters I've read (no offense to anyone!).
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All you need is pumpkin caps, undercarriage skid plate, rocker protection, gas tank skid plate, enough room to clear 27 in super swampers SSR's and away you go. Will wheel quite adequately. A locked rear or two wouldn't hurt either. The major lift could wait.
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Bienvenue mon amis. Please do us all a favor and quit referring to your Samurai as a Jeep. No offence to Jeep owners, I love them just as much as Zuks, but if you keep doing this your truck will develop an identity crisis.
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Hey - I'm new in here too. Good luck with your Zuk, and congrats on finding a good one ... I know how hard that can be!

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welcome to our litlle piece of the net. congrates on gettin a good sami. i think 235's will fit with out any lift. i ran 225's for along time before i got my 31's now 33's and i don't recall ever rubbing.

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Thanks for the response guys.Sorry about the jeep thing [img]images/graemlins/spank.gif[/img].

I don't really want to go all out with the sammi,29 inch tires will be enough for me.I want to put a lift on it as i don,t like the look of tires stuffed in the fenderwells.

The bumbers(which will not be there long) are way to low for me and the rockers are going to be reinforced for sure.

From what i,ve read i,m going to need a gear reduction for sure ,just wondering if changing the ring&pinion in the diffs would be good enough or to i have to buy the gear reduction for the transfer case which is quite expensive for me.

Also know one has ansewerd about welding the rear end,does that mean that you are all running detroits or just leaveing them open.

Thanks again.
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i have been running a welded rear end for about 4 years. no real problem. the rear tires wear a little quicker but thea has been bout it. sorry i missed this question the forst time through.

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Welcome guys!

I'm a Tracker guy...but welcome anyway!
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HI and welcome.

I have been at this for two years and have learned a lot about Samurais and cars in general. I have been through a range of mods on mine and can offer some experiences and some opinions.

A 2" body lift will fit your tires of choice if you pound your fender seams and remove your bumPer. To get some suspension lift, you can get 3" lifted springs, which can be pricey and ride poorly (I have heard), possibly get a set of four add-a-leafs, which also ride poorly but give about 2" of lift, or get a shackle reverse kit.

I had the Calmini Shackle reverse and was basically happy with it. It rode a little bit low in the back and I boosted it up with add-aleafs to even it out. The handling wasnt much worse than stock, but it did have some dive in the front under heavy braking and seemed a tiny bit less stable while doing so, since a shackle reverse allows the wheels to move backwards under spring compression instead of forwards. Body motion wasnt much of an issue until I removed my anti-sway bar.

A shackle reverse just moves the shackles from your front springs to the rear instead of the front of the spring, and locates the spring solidly in the front on towers (or fangs) that bolt to the frame. In the rear, it just provides lift through extended shackles. I was able to run 30x9.5x15 tires with this suspension without any rubbing. My bumpsteer also did not increase too badly. I just got abigger steering stabilizer and it seemed to go away [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

I cant speak about spring over since I have never had one, but I personally have avoided it for a few reasons. #1 I just like to be different #2 it gives more lift than I want #3 it introduces a host of possible issues like increased potential for spring wrap, excessive driveline angles and steering correction requirements. It seems to be the mod of choice, though, so it cant be all bad.

My 1.3 pulled the 30s, but it was real SLOW. HIlls were to be avoided since even with a running start I'd end up doing 35 in second gear by the top of the hill. 4:16 gears in the transfer case fixed that, but they weren't cheap. My own R&P are stock, but I know a fellow who runs 30" tires using just geared down diffs and does well with them.

I was open for a couple years even though I had a welded dif sitting in my cellar waiting to be installed. Just as I was about to throw it in, the Trail Tough minispool came out and I opted to go for that instaed, which does the same as welding the diffs, but only because I didnt know who welded it or how good a job they did. Not too many miles on the minispool yet, but it hasnt caused any real problems for me. I understand they can be a little weird in the winter on slippery roads, though.

Your English is better than some of the native English speakers in here, so I wouldn't worry. At least you can spell and punctuate.

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