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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-22-2003, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
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What to do about springs ... need some advice

OK my factory springs and kidneys have about had It. All 4 are flat and not flexing very well so putting the rears up front is not really and option. It is time to make a change.

I have done several searches and there seem to be many different opinions regarding this topic. Well I am looking for a few more you advice would be greatly appreciated.

I have a bone stock 87 Samurai JX currently running a 2 shackle lift and 30 tires.

I need something with more flex for better on road driving and off road wheel travel. I cannot weld and want to stay SPUA dont want to spend the time, money and chase the gremlins of SPOA.

The two most effective and inexpensive choices seem to be:

1) 3 Calamini suspension kit $500 but seems to come with everything needed but how well does it flex?

2) CJ springs if I find a full set (4) of CJ springs it looks like I will need 3 kits. The RUF ($52),ARS ($75) and poly bushings ($50) Shocks ($100 minimum) + cost of springs ($100 minimum if Im lucky) TOTAL = $377 if I find a deal on the springs. YJs dont seen to make much sense because by the time you buy all the hardware needed for the conversion you might as well by the Calamini kit or Old Emu and get new springs.

3) Old Emu is a little more money but looks like it might be worth it. What do you think?

Both mods will probably require extended break lines.

So here are my questions:
Is there any thing else I am missing?
Drive line changes / steering modifications / shock mount changes / with the added lift.
Will the CJ springs really make that much of a difference or am I better off going with the Calamini setup?
How much flex am I going to get out of the Calamini setup vs. the CJ conversion?
Can I / Should I use my existing shackles with CJ springs?
Which will have better on road manners?

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post #2 of (permalink) Old 03-22-2003, 03:19 PM
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Re: What to do about springs ... need some advice

Well at the risk of being threatend with a lawsuit, again here is my seat of the pants experience and opinion.
I put the Old Man Emu springs on my Zuk at the same time a friend put the Calmini kit on his. My ride was
much softer from the begining. I've now had OME's for about 5 years. They have settled about 1". All
the same so there is no lean. The other guy went through multiple springs until he finally sold it and I've
lost track of the Zuk and the guy. [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
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Re: What to do about springs ... need some advice


All 4 are flat and n

I think sammi springs are flat from the box.
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Re: What to do about springs ... need some advice

If your looking to go the lifted spring route, I would highly suggest staying away from National Spring company. I bought their kit from Rocky Road & it they lost all their lift the first week I had them & they wouldn't take them back even though the springs were under warranty. Over $300 loss. I run Calmini's 2" shackle reverse kit w/ a 4.5 SPOA and it rides nice. Plenty of flex. If you want the ultimate flex and a nice ride for under $500, here is a different suggestion that will work for you...

Buy 2 sets of Revolver dropping shackles from Teraflex($165 front & $165 for rear)...thats $340

Then keep your flat springs on there(it won't kill ya, I did it for years & still have my original dead,flat springs up front). Take your 2" lift shackles off and put the stock ones back on w/ the Revolvers. Last, buy a 2" body lift kit($90). That puts you at $430.

If you can afford it try to buy some cheap, used longer shocks around $70.

This setup (stock springs, Revolvers front & rear, and 2" body lift) will give you the clearance you need for your 30" tires, & the Revolver dropping shackles will give you a nice, plush ride and WAY more flex than the Calmini kit could ever offer. You would also gain atleast or more flex than a SPOA lift. Just my 2 cents.

If you've got the money, go Trailtough YJ Missing Link kit;^)


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