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33s YJs SPUA?

hey zukers!

Just gathering opinions here. Speculation is OK, actual experience is even better. Your input is welcome, unless it consists of telling me to go SPOA. I want to stay SPUA. If the answer was to go SPOA I wouldn't ask this question because I'd already know the answer.

I would like to run YJ springs with missing links and 33s but I want to keep it SPUA. In the first step, I want to set up the YJ conversion properly with the right steering correction, shock mounts and shocks, driveline and brakeline extenders, slipyokes, panhard bar, etc. It is my understanding from what I have read on this board and elsewhere that this setup will probably give me a total lift of about 2". Obviously the condition of the springs and total weight of the truck (with fat me inside) affect this. I have 4 5-leaf YJ springs in good shape already and that's what I plan to use. My current lift is a 2" s/r and it clears my 30x9.5 tires just fine. I hope to maintain at least this amount of lift with YJs SPUA.

The next step, somewhere down the line, is to try and fit 33s on the truck while staying SPUA. I am wondering if I could accomplish this by getting lifted YJs. I know there are 4" lifted YJs available, so would the 2" over stock sami springs plus the 4" from the lifted YJs give enough lift to clear 33s? I plan to stick with narrow 33s, no wider than 10.50. (Yes, I know that limits my choices)

I have 4:16s in the Tcase now and am thinking that going up to a 5:12 (13?) r&p would get me close to the right range for the 33s. I know more driveline angle attention would be needed after the lfted springs.

I'm trying to develop a long-term plan so i can intelligently buy the parts needed to get it done wihtout wasting any money. I can;t afford to do it all at once and like to do things a little more gradually anyways. I am still very new to wheeling and think it is valuable to wheel my truk in gradual states of being built so I can learn the ropes more thoroughly. I don;t want to just throw big hardware at the trails right off the bat and have that mask a lack of experience.

thanks to any and all,

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Re: 33s YJs SPUA?

Mark ran some 5 leafs SPUA for awhile with 31"s, here is a clicky
http://home.attbi.com/~rokzuki/
He might be the best to answer your question. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Re: 33s YJs SPUA?

daxe, I think you should go SPOA. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] Jim
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If you use a 3" body lift combined with the YJs SPUA - you can probably squeeze on a set of small 33s........
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Daxe do yourself a favor and go SPOA! (JUst had to say it dude..) to fit 33" tires you will need to attack the wheel wells with a sawzall and install bumpstops, and then you will break axles anyway. stay with your 31's that you have allready. with YJs and a locker in one end you will be able to do alot of the harder trails. (Skid plates are needed)
amd you will need a beefy rear driveshaft new england trails and stock rear d-shaft are a bad combo.

As to gearing correction 5.12 and a 4.16 tcase are too low for 33's. 4.62 and a 4.16 tcase are about right for road use.
this from a few years with the same setup!
But I will have a set of 5.12's out of the tracker this spring [img]images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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>>If you use a 3" body lift

ewww!

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Re: 33s YJs SPUA?

Glenn guess we are on the same page. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Jim
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.........but you should SPOA to properly fit 33s (like jim and glenn said).........
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the only problem i had spua with wrangler springs was the rear shocks were to short and there was nothing i could do about it other than cut the tub and run them up into the passenger compartment the front i cut the fenders so they would fit
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Re: 33s YJs SPUA?

>>Daxe do yourself a favor and go SPOA! (JUst had to say it dude..)

you guys are so clever... [img]images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

>>to fit 33" tires you will need to attack the wheel wells with a sawzall and install bumpstops, and then you will break axles anyway.

I actually kind of want to attack the wheelwells with a sawzall. They are all rusted out anyways. Part of this bizarre plan is to somehow modify the body to stuff big narrow tires into it. I guessed that I would need bumpstops, but that "lots of flex, mostly droop" concept that I heard from SOMEONE sort of caught my attention.

>> stay with your 31's that you have allready. with YJs and a locker in one end you will be able to do alot of the harder trails. (Skid plates are needed)

All I need is a skid plate for the transfer case and I will be pretty much protected underneath. I have actually been aiming for this all along. Some of my first mods (except the s/r) have been getting armored up, as you know. The long range plans also include tracker p/s and selectable lockers in both ends.

>>amd you will need a beefy rear driveshaft new england trails and stock rear d-shaft are a bad combo.

The long term plans included replacing the driveshafts with big scary beefy ones. I have this weird fantasy about never breaking anything by not tackling anything I'm not built to handle. Probably unrealistic, but if you can't be overly idealistic in your hobby, where can you do it?.

>>As to gearing correction 5.12 and a 4.16 tcase are too low for 33's. 4.62 and a 4.16 tcase are about right for road use.
this from a few years with the same setup!

How about those 34x9.50s? After getting a good taste of that 4:16 Tcase, I must say I am attracted to crawling. Heck..maybe I could gear it down really low and then put an overdrive unit in it to compensate while on the road.

>>But I will have a set of 5.12's out of the tracker this spring

Hmmm.....thats VERY interesting information... [img]images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] Perhaps we need to have a discussion...

thanks, G. Your Tracker looks good in green by the way.

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