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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-20-2002, 06:37 PM Thread Starter
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what do you think of my shock mount idea?

howdy,
what do you think of my shock mount system?

i would like to know if you think this would work. oh and yes the bolts on the tabs would have zerk fittings. as i like the design because it cusion better than my binding upper rear mount, because as it sits one shock is mount on the front of the axle and the other behind the axle. this sittup would use both ideas. and it would not kill flex because the top and lower mount on the shocks would be eyes. this design would work better because it does not just rebound, (up down) it takes the shock and tranfer it into to different direction instead of up and back down.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

You will lose about 90% of the front shock's efectivnes and about 60% of the rear. The steep
angle degrades the shock action.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

howdy,
you know your right. i just went out and looked at the sammi and realized that it is not like my s-10. there wouldn't be the room i needed to make it work. some now i'm back to square one with a upper shock mount that does like the way i run my shocks. see i have found that if i ran the passenger shock on the front of the axle and the driver sdie shock on the back then the axle does not tand to hop. i use to run one of those one arm bandit style trac bars. i have since trashed it. my main problem right now is the the shocks are angle at slant. like / and \. i mean if you look at them from inside of the wheel well. i would like them to run straight is it looks like the upper rear mount bar get taken out and the stock bar gets cut out so that i can run a new beefy bar weld on four side to the frame. it's stock steel time.

mine will be right above the axle, instead of the stock one that runs behind the axle. the stock one will be cut out, heck it might just make a nice rear bed stiffiner.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

Now your talking. GM used the front/back shock monting on several vehicles. It does work,
but wont take the place of a trac bar for preventing spring damage from wrap.
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howdy,
yes i know about trac bars. i will be ordering one from NCO pretty soon. now is the best with the cj's.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

howdy,
here is the proto-type design. tomarrow the making starts.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

I can't remember where I read it, but I remember that you can determine the dampening rate by the angle the shock is tilted. Obviously, vertical gives the most and horizontal gives none. If it is important to maintain the same effect then keep the angle the same. If you want more dampening, straigten it some.
I will be really interested as to how this works out.

Good luck,

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JimC, what you described is correct for even bound and rebound articulation (Straight up and down),
but when the chassis is in roll, around curves and off camber in the rocks, you need to draw arcs
from the roll center, through the shock mounting points to maximize the damping effect. From that
mounting angle, to vertical is your compromise posiitons and where to put it depends on your
use/driving style more than anything else.

If you average your spring eye heights, and pull that dimension to the center of the axle,
that will give you the approximate roll center height.

Keep in mind, moving the lower shock mount to the bottom of the axle has a profound effect on the
shock mounting angle. Once you pick your mounting points, the stiffness of the shock is all you
have to adjust damping and roll rates, unless you run a sway bar, not likely on a zuk.
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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

I remember that it was an involved article. They went through and described all the aspects of shock dampening. I don't remember if the article had any info on roll and what not, but I am sure placement is not a simple matter.

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Re: what do you think of my shock mount idea?

That will work looks similiar to the SKY setup just got rid of mine.
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