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post #1 of (permalink) Old 10-06-2002, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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Lifting rear wheel

I went on a fairly hard run, my '92 Tracker with
35 x 12.5's kept trying to nose over, like it's
front heavy. Most of the time it lifted a rear
wheel badly, sometimes both.
Nearly rolled it several times.
Any suggestions?
And, steep up inclines it wants to backflip.
Seems like a longer wheelbase is needed.

Has any body extended the front end, including
axle, suspension etc to get it balanced better.
Looks like it should be easy, except for the
bodywork.

How 'bout extending the rear? Looks easier yet.
I'm considering extending both ends.

Has anyone done it?


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Re: Lifting rear wheel

Swap in a solid axle in the front....if you have not already then move the axle as far forward on the springs as possible. If you want to move the rear axle ALOT of fab work would be involved in just moving it a few inches since you have coils. Believe it or not the Wrangler Spring swap is fairly easy in the rear and that would also allow you to re-position the rear axle where you want it.
....Just an idea or two.

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Re: Lifting rear wheel

It looks like extending the front would be fairly
easy by cutting the frame and engine mounts,
moving the entire assembly forward, then
adding a section to the frame and rewelding the
engine mounts. The hardest part is adding a
section to the fenders so it looks right.
Same with moving the rear back - cutting and
adding a section to the frame, then
re-positioning the gas tank.

The reaason I'm even fooling with a Tracker is
it doesn't have 1000 lbs of unsprung weight
with covered wagon solid axles.

Wondering if anyone has tried this?



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Re: Lifting rear wheel

The rear axle can easily be moved back an inch or so by extending the arms. This has been done a few times in the UK. Apart from any handling benefits with a lift the rear wheels are moved forward because the axle travels in an arc. It looks a bit odd at rest if the wheels are offset in the arches. Moving the axle back will move more weight to the front though. My Vitara used to pitch over the front much more before I lifted it, the extra articulation keeps it more level now. Maybe you've just got it too high, how much lift have you got?
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Re: Lifting rear wheel

It's only up a true 2.5 inches, body lift only,
so frame and drivetrain are still at normal
height - except higher due to the taller tires.
Also I've added about 80 lbs underneath in a full
length skid plate, front to rear axle.
All control arms are still at the original angles,
original suspension, coils and shocks.

The problem seems to be the balance point is
too far forward, and the short tail end
doesn't provide the leverage to compensate.

I hadn't thought about lengthening the rear's
arms top and bottom.
Thanks, that's a good posibility.
That would certainly cut down on the arc it swings
through.
I'm looking for an extra 18 - 24" wheelbase,
some at each end.

Either I'm doing a first or nobody that has done
it is admitting it.

Hmmmm, I wonder if that's a bad sign?
Thanks, Rich
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Re: Lifting rear wheel

A customer of mine wants to do the exact same thing. Unfortunately it is not very cost effective and he ended up just purchasing a 4-door Sidekick. He prefers it to the old 2-door, but it is a bit longer than he originally wanted. Good luck with the project.

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