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can I mount tires myself?

Here is another silly question.

Is it practically possible to mount tires yourself? I have never really tried and won't bother if it is next to impossible, but I do have an air compressor and some new valve stems and was wondering if I could mount some stock size tires on stock rims and save myself the bother and expense of having them mounted at a shop. I would probably have them balanced at the shop later.

Anyone try this with any level of success?

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Re: can I mount tires myself?

I would think if you could spread the tire on to the rim yes but don't know how you could do that. Maybe a tire iron? There are things like this available <a target="_blank" href=http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34542>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=34542</a> but for a one shot deal would be cheaper to go somewhere. Jim
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

Without a machine or tools it is near impossible. I have a
static balencer if you want to use it BTW. that should save you 7.00 a tire.
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

well, ill dissagree, out of necessity i learned the art of it years ago, pretty simple. then got tired of it when i came across a coats 20/20 tire machine for $100. lots depends on the size tire versus the rim too. a 1050 series tire going on a 10 inch wide rim is simple to do. now a 1250 or 1350 on a 8 inch rim is a P.I.T.A., promise!! a good heavy truck to break the bead down, if ya dont have a truck, a maddock works wonders breakin the bead too, forget a sledge hammer, never had luck with em. 3-5 good tire irons 2-3 feet long and the tire comes right off *USUALLY*... sometimes nice to have a small sledge hammer to use along with the irons to help the bead come around that tight part of the rim. use LOTS of water/dish soap solution for lube. give me a few to practice on again, i can change em about the same time you can do it on my coats machine.. also helps a LOT to work on a SOLID surface...

its a lost art and really simple once ya get the knack, but for the money it costs to mount 4 at a tire shop, im just getting toooo lazy in my old age to do it by hand anymore.
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

I agree can be done as a ben there done that only when you have to I have done my 33 x12.5 on 15 x 8 wheels still no fun even when you have the spoons
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

You can do it with 2 large screw drivers (or small pry bars) and a rubber mallet. I have a set of tire irons. They're not too exspensive. I mount them from the back side of the rim. Bigger tire on wider rims I use a come along or rope around the middle of the tread to aide in seating the bead. I carry the tire irons with me on the trail in case I pop a bead.
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I mounted a set of 29x10.50 swamper TSL in 30 minutes the other day using a friend, a small pry bar, and 2 large screw drivers. We flipped the wheels upside down and went to work. It was a lot easier that I had thought it was gonna be. Its been years since I professionally mounted tires and I had forgotten how hard it was to get wide tires on narrow wheels but it wasnt as bad as I had imagined. Yes it can be done, but use lots of soapy water.

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Re: can I mount tires myself?

BB is right, it can be done. Mounting a tire is easy, breaking the bead sometimes not. I do it all the time, because around here they charge too much for mounting and balancing. (Walmart wanted over $40 to do Cindy's mini van and I was buying the dang things from them!) For what its worth, Harbor freight sells a muscle power widget for getting the tires on and off, I don't know if it breaks beads.

Minimum special Tools:
o 2 tire irons or spoons.
o Soapy water in a spray bottle
o Somthing to break the bead
The bitty wrench for removing the valve stem core.

I like having a heavy steel and rawhide mallet I own handy to persuade the tougher parts.

First let out all the air.

You can break the bead with a special hammer, a levering tool available from OZ, jacking up a truck tire and setting it down on the tire close to the rim. Driving over the tire just missing the rim (Don't hit the rim, it can bend), I use a tool specifically made for the job that has a cantilevered bead breaking uh, jaw with a lever that gives me enough omph to break the bead. My son just got big enough to manage it and he weighs under 130.

Break both sides.

Spray the rubber bead with soap.

Using the spoons begin to lever the bead over the rim. You need to put your knee down on the tire, to get the bead into the deep trough part of the rim. This makes it so the bead has enough length to come over the outside of the rim. Keep walking the bead off on one side while you hold the other with the second iron. Take small "bites", the tire bead WILL NOT STREACH. You nurse it off while the bead inside is in that deep section. Most rims mounting trough is nearer the outside not the backside. Take a look before you start, doing it backwards is a pain.

Once the first bead is off, repeat, or what I do is catch the rim with one spoon, Lever it completely over so the bead is well started and hit the tire bead with that heavy rawhide mallet. A couple of whacks and the rim usually pops loose.

Mounting is usually easier. Don't forget to replace the stem if needed. Just pull it out with vice grips, and pull in the new one using that stem wrench and pliers if needed

Wet the bead on the tire. Push and turn the first bead on, it will commonly twist on without the spoons.

Start the bead with the spoon and get your knee on the tire to get it down into the trough. As you get to the end, take smaller bites again.

All that's left is setting the bead. Put the rim on a plastic bucket and push the tire down. Lift carefully and gently push the rim to the other tire bead. Hit it with air. And try to get it to catch. Once started your home free.

After you get used to it a few times its fast. My son and I did the 4 van tires in about an hour, and that was with lesson time, showing him how, and letting him do some. The next weekend he did a friends trailer tire almost without supervision, almost as fast as I can.
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

Heres a link to an Australian company that manufactures and distributes Tire Pliers (Brand Name).

http://www.tyrepliers.com.au

Apparently from demonstrations at 4WD shows, I have been told that the guy was breaking beads with one hand and not much effort then reseating them again easily enough.

Maybe someone imports them to the US or you could take advantage of the strong US dollar to just do a private purchase.
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Re: can I mount tires myself?

Thats the Gizmo I was talking about, thanks for posting it, I had lost track of the site. We used to use those 15 years ago or so on race tires. They work great. I think there about $50 or so.
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