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1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

I was doing some thinking about a 1.6 16V auto swap. I love the idea of an auto off road for ease of drivability. I was thinking about it and it would be about the same cost. The adapter plate for the 1.6 to the stock tranny is $150, plus the $150 for the new clutch kit = $300. I've seen some tracker auto's go for about $300 -$400 so that's pretty close to the same amount. I know I would have to trim the tranny hump a bit. How much longer is the auto? (3 speed or the OD one) I read that some one did one of these swaps and said that it was "sluggish". I find that somewhat hard to believe considering that they use them on the longer wheelbase / heavier trackers and they seem to drive fine - not mentioning the fact that the 16V has twice the HP and more torque than the 1.3. I'm not trying to make a drag racer anyway - just a more user friendly off road vehicle. Most of my wheeling is in the mud and tight trails - no rocks for me. Anyone have pics of this swap? I was going to go with a Ford 2.9 and C4, but I really don't want to have to fab a ton of stuff, plus the 1.6 combo would be lighter.
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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

Go with the 3 speed (I think it's a chevette tranny) just for ease of install, as the 4sp is WAY cool, but it's electonically controlled.
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the computer setup and wireing harness is different for the 1600 16valve setup's with the automatic .vs. the manual tranny ones... just letting you know...
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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

If I find a 16V with an auto attached, why would it be hard to hook up the electroncis? Does the chevette tranny hook up to a 16V without an adapter?
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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

I have a 1993 1.6 8 valve with 1993 auto tranny in my red 1987 hardtop Zuk. It is a comfortable daily driver and it is not too bad off-road either, but I honestly still prefer my Sammy 5-speed tranny. Pic is attached.

E-mail me @ [email protected] if you need more info. i will be out of town for a few days so I can get back to you on Sunday if you have any Q's.

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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

Maybe use the tracker 5 speed then? I hear it has a bigger clutch.
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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

I have an auto trans and a tcase out of a 95 Tracker if you are interested.
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With the Tracker 5 speed you have to shorten your intermediate shaft so there is only about an inch of tubing between the welds at each end. You need a couple of inches of body lift and will have to cut a new hole for your shifter midway between the transmission and transfer case shifters. You'll also need to fabricate a plate to bolt the rear transmission mount to the crossmember.
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Re: 1.6 16V swap manual VS auto - cost diff nill?

Wouldn't I need a 2wd tranny?
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Yes, you'd need a 2wd transmission since the 4wd 5 speed has the integrated tcase.
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