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YJs SPUA with no m/l?

Hey Everyone,

I have a question about YJs. I already have a set of four 5 leaf spings to go on my 88.5 Hardtop. I know I don't want to go SPOA with it yet. I see Trail Tough has kits to mount the YJs but they have missing links on the front.

I like to do stuff gradually, so I am wondering if I can buy stuff to put the YJs on all around without doing s/r or m/l? Obviously you can do it in the back, but how about the front?

I need to maintain at least the 2" or so of lift I have with 2" s/r I currently have, and another inch or two more would be OK, I just need to know if this is do-able. I can grab the M/Ls at a future date and go SPOA farther down the line. Any idea how much lift I might expect with YJs SPUA and no M/Ls? something tells me ir might be around 3-4"?

Thanks for any info about this.

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Re: YJs SPUA with no m/l?

Or you could use the s/r kit for YJ's from AAPA? They can be used SPUA or SPOA.
Just to add something else; you may as well go SPOA now because it'll save you money and time over doing it later. I'm doing the same thing too, going SPOA, using a M/L kit. Plus you'll gain a few inches over what you have now.

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Re: YJs SPUA with no m/l?

>>Or you could use the s/r kit for YJ's from AAPA? They can be used SPUA or SPOA.

That's a possibility (except that I can't weld), but I have a s/r now and I am concerned with the wheels travelling rearward under compression even more than they do now. Will it happen more or less with this kit? I dunno.

>>Just to add something else; you may as well go SPOA now because it'll save you money and time over doing it later. I'm doing the same thing too, going SPOA, using a M/L kit. Plus you'll gain a few inches over what you have now.

This may be difficult for folks on this BBS to grasp, but I really don't want a SPOA setup at this time. I don't want that much lift and I don't want to raise the center of gravity that much. There are a ton of nickle and dime things to deal with when you have that much lift (brake lines, driveline spacers, shocks/mounts, etc.) and I don't feel like dealing with it. If I stay under 4" of lift, I can avoid some of that stuff, I think.

Plus, we have a yearly vehicle inspection and very restrictive lift laws. My Zuk with the 2" s/r and 30" tires is technically illegal already. It costs 29$ a year to have some person look at your truck and decide if he wants to risk a fine and losing his job to pass your illegal truck and give you an inspection sticker. If he fails your truck, you get a big red "R" sticker, meaning rejected. You can fix whatever is wrong with your vehicle (take off the lift?) and go back to try again, or you can peel it off yourself and give 29$ to the next guy to see if HE wants to pass it.

Thanks for your suggestions. I will check the AAPA s/r stuff out and see if that suits what I need.

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Re: YJs SPUA with no m/l?

Id have alittle fun with my sami.. Id use a set of cum-a-longs....... wicnh that b^&*^tch down to stock hight and chain the sum of a gun down then drive it to the shop.... Id be the first SPOA equipped low rider sami to ever be inspected.
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Re: YJs SPUA with no m/l?

I originally ran my CSC kit in a spring under setup. It worked pretty well, but I found that I needed the extra clearance from the spring over.

If you run spring under, you will definately have to do something about bumpstops. The YJ springs are really flexy and will stuff completely causing rubbing. Mine has a s/r and it rubbed really bad on the back of the fender when stuffing a tire and turning. It would also rub the top of the fender when stuffed.

The only real difference in pricing YJ's spring over versus spring under is the spring pads. Due to the flex, you will need to address shocks, shock mounts, brakelines, and drivelines. When I went from spring under to spring over, the only new items I needed was the pads and longer shocks (which I could have saved money on if I went straight to spring over). Everything else was already needed.
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Re: YJs SPUA with no m/l?

hey Daxe, you just need the right inspection station, but hte laws here in MA do suck, BUT mine passed even with the 4.5" SPOA (shhhhh) but I had the small tires on it. Good thing with samurais is they are so uncommon that nobody knows how small they really are to begin with.

Also after you go SPOA, you can basically unbolt the springs and stuff and pop the axles back in SPUA, go get your sticker and then swap back to SPOA, all before lunch.
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