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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2002, 03:18 PM Thread Starter
 
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Opinions on EFiing a Samurai

I'm thinking about going EFI on my 1.6 - 8V motor in my Samurai. I'd like opinions on people who have done it. I'm going to go with Brent @ Trailtough for the wiring conversion. I know it's expensive but he does warranty his work and has a FAST turn around time. I'd just like to know if it's worth it or could the $400.00 be better spent? Right now I'm running stock carb and intake on the 1.6 and I'm happy with acceleration.
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In my opinion the difference between throttle body injection and a carburetor is not significant enough to be worth $400.



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What size tires do you run, and what gearing do you have? Just wondering cause I'm going to be running my weber and stock intake on my 1.6. To me carbs seem easier to repair, when FI goes out it can cost some bucks. The only real advantage in FI might be better operation at angles.
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I've got 31s on there now but I'll I've got a set of 32s in the carport. I'll also have a GRS 1 going in in the next month or so and I'm planning a 4.62 gear swap with a kick hybrid axle. I like the thought of a carburator but the stock carbs suck and - in my opinion - Webers aren't much better. I don't know enough about Pony carbs...
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Re: Opinions on EFiing a Samurai

capn - how good are you at fabrication? I've had good results adapting the Bosch CIS ( K-Jetronic) mechanical port injection system to other engines - never done a samurai, but all thats usually required is either adaprting, or building an intake manifold with holes for the injectors - there's almost no electronics, and no black box, or sensors to wire up. parts are available in yards everywhere on VW's, Audi's, Volvo's, Saabs, Mercedes, BMW, etc.

PM me if you're interested, and I'll whip up a list of donor parts / vehicles for you - last time a friend did this, it cost them $100 Candian for the whole thing, and a weekend to install it, including building a custom sheetmetal intake manifold.

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Re: Opinions on EFiing a Samurai

Here's the thing that makes me want to choose the stock EFI route. The car is basically free (it runs good but has been wrecked). So, I can part it out and make the $$ back to do the wiring conversion and still have everything for basically nothing... no out of pocket $$, just time and effort.
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hey, no sweat - you asked for opinions. no black boxes, and multipoint FI reliability works for me, but, as you pointed out, there are other considerations, too. 8^D

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I haven't wrung out the bugs in my EFI setup yet, but I wouldn't trade it for any carb. I really love it when I start up in the morning. There's no monkeying around with a choke, no pumping of the gas pedal, no flooding ... just turn the key, and vrooom! I do understand, though, that the Mitsubishi ecms are flaky, so I am going to offer my Weber in trade for a spare ecm.
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Brown29, thats a really good point. $400 is quite a lot. If I did it for someone I wouldnt charge that much. But then again, my time/labor is probably not worth as much as Brent's. If you buy from him you are guaranteed to get great support for your product. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] But still, looking at it from a shear accounting view, you still loose the $400 no matter how you look at it. And yes, in accounting terms, you 'loose' the money. If you do it yourself, you might as well be writting yourself a check for $400. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Cap34 How old is the weber? Be interested in a 92' ecm?
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