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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-09-2002, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
 
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For those with full floaters...

Have any of you drove your zuk on the street in front wheel drive / diff unlocked? (I.E. front hubs locked with an open dif / rear wheel hubs unlocked)

I want a locked rear, but the ARB is the only real solution that I know of that will allow me to commute effectively (Effective means fast).

And for THAT kind of money, I can almost get a free-floating rear axle which seems to offer a longer list of advantages.

I have been pondering the idea of a locked full floater in the rear and an open diff in the front. But the whole idea pivots on wheather or not the samurai handles well as a front wheel drive vehicle.
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Re: For those with full floaters...

I would guess handling would not be an issue as much as the birfields being the weak link. Compare Samurai birfield design with modern front wheel design CV joints, try not to chuckle...
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Re: For those with full floaters...

if you want to know isactally how it will be just pull your rear driveline throe it in 4 high and you will know for your self and for your vehicle mine it is strange to drive
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Re: For those with full floaters...

daveaz told me that he drove his samurai with only a front shaft at 75mph with no issues once....

this is with one of his sumo shafts in there..

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Re: For those with full floaters...

Im a little confused.

Why is an ARB the 'only real solution'? What other solutions won't allow you to commute 'effectively' or 'fast'?

I agree, a Spidertrax full-floater rear axle does have more advantages. Probably the most noticeable one is strength. The Spidey guys have those shafts made custom, so they are fully hardened, un-cut and splined, real-deal shafts. Eddie has yet to break one, and thats saying something.

I would recommend that you not use your vehicle as a front wheel drive. The front end was not designed for long term highway use. Shafts are smaller, weak birfields, and your ring and pinion will be working on the 'coast' side of the gears, which is not nearly as strong as the 'drive' side. I am also assuming that you will have or already have larger than stock tires? It will be harder to steer and again, the wear factor just increases.

Now, I have seen a guy with a bone stock Sami use his front end for a while. A while, until he got his rear shaft fixed.
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Re: For those with full floaters...

when I bought my '91 it was missing the rear drive shaft. They guy who I bought it from had driven it in front wheel drive for several months before I bought it so I would say that it won't hurt to drive it with the front only. my $0.002 CDN
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Re: For those with full floaters...

Thanks for the help everyone!

I've seen limited slips snap axles ~ when the wheel on the ground is doing 5 mph and the wheel in the air gets a good spin going at 20 or whatever and suddenly grabs a rock. So I don't want that.

I've ridden in a "Lincoln Locked" 4X4 and that was really spooky. Since my Sam is 4" taller, I don't want that.

Detroit lockers click and clack which I could get used to but what I really don't want to have to do is coast and wait till I'm out of the corner to floor it (not to mention slick roads). So I don't want that either (yeah, I'm picky)

That leaves me with ARB. Which I have been coveting for a while now....

I was hoping to have found a different solution, but you are right, unless I fork over another $1000 for that beauty of a front axle (drool drool) the birfields will let me down...

So ARB it is...

Thanks again.

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Re: For those with full floaters...

Yep, with your very specific needs, the ARB will be the way to go. I wish I had a full floater, I know some day I am going to snap a rear axle and wish I had it. hehe

Going the ARB route is going to be so much better for you than running on the front end. Have fun!
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Re: For those with full floaters...

I had to drive mine for a few days on the front rearend, wasn't too stable that way at all . Was kind of neat to dump the clutch and spin 31's , but steered real weird with the two axles being a different length .
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