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OK, I'm doing a paper for one of my classes and it's on Gun Control/Private Ownership and Violent crime. There are no correct answers, just tell me how ya feel about it. I'm just trying to get an idea of how the rest of the country feels about it.
Do you think Gun control laws have had an effect on violent crimes, and do you feel that private gun ownership helps or hurts violent crimes
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All I can say is Criminals do not follow the law, so how would a law have an effect on there decision?

No I do not think that gun control helps anything but criminals victimize the rest of us.
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Really It doesen't matter if there is laws or not if they want a gun they will get it. It is not the people that go put there name on the line and get a gun to go shoot some one. Why would you when you can pick they up on the street.
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NRA.com is a good source of (U.S. Government) statistics on firearms ownership, crime, etc.

On the question of whether Gun Control legislation is an effective deterrent to gun-related crimes, look at cities that have comprehensive gun bans...and also look to the UK and Australia, which once were nation-states where citizens could own firearms, and then changed to prohibit gun ownership. I think the legal system, in its failure to aggressively prosecute and punish those found guilty of violent crime, prevents any notion of deterrence. Now, if violent criminals were executed within, say, 30 days of their conviction...then maybe we'd have a deterrent.

Just a suggestion, but an interesting tangent that you could explore in your paper is the "culture of violence" in America...there are millions of firearms owners in America, and tens of millions of firearms; statistically, criminals who commit gun-related crimes are very small in number--but look for stats that show the number who are "repeat offenders"...that would be interesting. Contrast it to the nations which allow private citizens to own firearms, yet do not have a high crime rate.

Let us know how the paper turns out.
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<font face="Comic Sans MS">John Lott, a statistician has a book out entitled "More Guns, Less Crime" which can be a handy book to reference. I believe law abiding citizens (i.e. nobody with a violent felony in their record) should be allowed to carry firearms on their person at any time. I do think a background check should be done, as should some education of the legal issues that may arise.

I have to believe private ownership of firearms tends to reduce violent crimes. Look at some of the statistics, some of the places that are the most restrictive in terms of private firearm ownership and right to carry have among the highest rates of violent crime. Washington DC is right up there and unless you know somebody or a criminal you effectively can't have a gun. Maybe some but surely not anything worth while.</font>
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"God created man, Samuel Colt made man equal."

Good quote. If you just freely give guns to the public, Two sides: 1)Now anyone can defend themselves. 2)Now we'll find other ways to kill each other. There needs to be gun control and legislation. Don't give guns to nutcases and criminals. Yeah, do what the guy above me said, go the the NRA's website.
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In an FBI thesis, my brother, a Deputy Chief at Hartford Connecticut Police Department (think: big city crime), determined that more murders were commited in this country, with a 13" Kitchen Knife, than with guns............More children died, every year, in car accidents, than gun accidents.............look at the numbers....people lie, numbers dont.
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NRA is one sided and unrealistic. Just be cautious of one sided interests.
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FONT FACE="COMIC SANS MS">Figures don't lie, but liars sure do figure. Government statistics tend to show in areas of more restrictive firearm laws, violent crimes (murder, etc) tend to be higher. Can be statistically boiled down to actual crimes per capita, weighted for population differences etc. But for the most part criminals aren't really all that dumb or at least not particularly suicidal and IMO places limiting law abiding citizens ability to carry a weapon for the defense of self, should be referred to as "criminal empowerment zones", since the criminals have the understanding that unless Joe Citizen is a criminal he's not packing. I have to believe even the dregs of society (gangstas, murderers, etc) would prefer to survive their activities.


I don't have like a short attention span or anything. Forgot I already posted my thoughts. Oh well, here they are again, such as they are. lol</font>
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The laws seem to work good in middle and upper class areas where people buy most of their guns legally anyway.
The problem is poor areas. I'm willing to bet they outnumber the gun happy antigovernment people 10 to 1 in gun ownership. And most of those will be unregistered... And they vote democrat too. Just something to think about...
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