Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: N.Dakota, United States of America
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Re: cops in the wrong???
OK, a little more detail always helps. You didn't state that you were just an MP. It does make a diffence, I was in the service too, so I know where you are coming from. to the statements regarding law enforcment "They are held to a higher standard than what the people that they have to apprehend are." YES, and well they should be or you get abuse of power. I understand that they have to make split second decisions but in most instances that I have reviewed they tend to go off the deep end and way overboard. Whether this is due to training or an unspoken rule amongst law enforcement, I do not know, but it must change and soon or this country will see turmoil like never before because people are getting tired of it. As to making racial slurs and other obscene or rude comments, that should not make any diferance to a police officer. You cannot tell me that this was the very first time they ever had some one call them names. I agree with you fully that there are plenty out there trying to use this as a means to a greater end and that we, the general public, only get the snipits that they want us to see, but as I said before telivision news is nothing more than propaganda. You made the statement that cops are "always guilty until proven innocent", hmmmm, when was the last time a cop spent 6 months in a cell eating $hit food be mistreated by other criminal elements with no privacy waiting to prove his innocence? Never. Oh occasionaly they get a few days without pay until their buddy higher ups can figure a way to whitewash everything or else they get hung out to dry as a lone wolf acting on his own whims and that that is not the average cop on the beat. The average citizen has a dispute and they lock them up, cost them their jobs, cause them public disgrace, etc.etc. all while they wait to prove they are innocent. And after all is said and done, if they prove they are innocent, they are still screwed because that part generally doesn't make the headlines. Yes, I do not like law enforcment of any kind, I believe they are generaly the biggest criminals in this country, they just hide it behind a badge and a claim to be working for the public good. I believe in the law of the old west, you F wit me, I blow your head off or vice versa. Quick simple and no public tax dollars wasted.
I don't believe that this was a racial incident, never said so and I agree with you that it shouldn't be made into one. When I responded to your post originaly today, I had not actually seen the footage of the incident, only a newspaper picture with the headline that ten cops beat a man to death. After seeing a clip on the news I would say that for the moment of the clip that I saw they were trying not to let this become another Rodney King. Now if it turns out that he died from heart failure and that it wasn't a direct result of ANY strikes from the officers in question, I would say that exonerates them of wrong doing.
As I have said before, I generaly agree with a lot of things that you post, and after reviewing the facts, I see your points and have to agree with some of it. None the less I still stand by any and all statements I made regarding the law enforcment community, buncha caffine and sugar junkies running around with guns and badges proclaiming to be someone important, can't really say how I feel fully because they (the mods) would censor the he11 out of what I really think. One last thing, I wasn't passing judgement on you or any one, just putting my opinion out there for all to contemplate. I am not always righ, but am always willing to say what I think and feel and let others figure it out for themselves [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]