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post #1 of (permalink) Old 08-20-2003, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
 
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Fuel prices are again on the rise. The reason? Simple. Some transfer line in Tucson is damaged. What? When gas prices climbed several months ago, the reason we were told was a refinery in California was down.

Back in the day, the best Good Buddy Deal was when the Exxon Valdez ran aground in Alaska back in March 1989. Everyone's gas prices rose a significant amount and NEVER returned. So, when Exxon loses some oil, everyone raises prices.

The next one will be something on the lines of not being able to get the tanker engines started at some port in Hawaii or Guam. "Well, the Captain has lost the keys to the ship and, well, you will have to pay an extra $0.58 per gallon".

I know here in Nevada, we are not getting ratf*&%ed like Arizona is but it is still [img]images/graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
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Yeah, I got a big kick out of that big refinery fire about 3 years ago down in Texas or whatever that raised prices nationwide, but was never really investigated. Just took out that one tank, and there never was a real explanation of it. Uh huh.............
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I agree with you on Yoter... It's all about BIG business.. Until there is a reliable alternative energy source for vehicles we will continue to get "pumped" at the pump. Sure, Pres. Bush is talking about hydrogen powered cars but one must wonder if there is an alterior motive behind that one ( especially with his "interest" in the oil biz ). Not to bash Pres. Bush or anything but BIG business has BIG money to lobby the one's in control. I find it hard to believe that will all the technology in the world today someone couldn't come up with an alternative fuel. All it takes is money and the government doesn't want to fork over any money to fund the research because of the summer home that the BIG oil company money bought them.
I have heard about some college student that used reprocessed grease to power a diesel engine. I guess he goes around to different fast food places and collects the grease, then goes home and spends a couple of hours reprocessing the grease into useable fuel. The best part is, that whatever grease he used, that is what the exhaust smells like ( ie- donuts, chicken, etc, etc.. ) I found this site... The stuff is called Bio-diesel... Follow this link...www.veggievan.com
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The reason? Simple. Some transfer line in Tucson is damaged.

[/ QUOTE ] Yeeeup, the price of gas jumped here yesterday for the first time all summer, about $0.25 per gallon, but they sure as hell can't blame the prices here on a line in AZ. They blamed it on the blackout accross the US and Canada last week,..hmmmmm?
Theres always gunna be different reasons for why.

As for the "BioDiesel", I've seen that too....pretty interesting stuff, there were people brewing that stuff up in their back yards...LOL.

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I was actually so intrigued by the biodiesel concept that I just got back from buying the book on how to do it. I will get back to you all as to what it has to say. [img]images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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I was just checking out the "biodiesel" book and it seem like it could actually work. Here are a couple of good/bad points that I have found with the stuff:

Good-
1. Cheap- It costs less than a dollar to make a gallon of the stuff.
2. Pollution- there is none
3. If you make enough of this stuff in one batch you could be set for a while.
4. It will work in ANY diesel engine without mods.
5. Your exhaust smells like whatever your base grease was. IF you used donut grease to start with your exhaust will smell like donuts. Not good if the cops are following you but a great conversation piece.

Bad-
1. Fuel lines- they said that "some" of the vehicles have a problem with the fuel eroding the rubber fuel lines. They suggest using a synthetic fuel line.
2. Dangerous to make- although the actual biodiesel is much safer than even regular diesel, the process of making the biodiesel seems pretty hairy. I'm sure that if you did it a couple of times you could get the hang of it.
3. Exact measurments- It takes about 4 things to make the biodiesel but you have to be exact with all the measurements of each... I'm talking milliliters and micrograms here.
4. Time consuming- It will take a full day to make any significant quanitiy of fuel. The good thing is that regardless if you make 10 or 100 gallons of fuel it takes the same amount of time.

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Whats the name of that book 2Toy? If ya don't mind.

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Heres a couple interesting links on the subject:
biodiesel.org
Alternative Fuels Data Center - What is biodiesel?

Sounds like it still needs a little work, but down the road would be worth considering (if i had a diesel, that is)
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"From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank" by - Joshua Tickell
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I was reading on that awhile back... I would try it if I had a diesel for sure! Here's a site that sells eqpt but also has ALL the tech info you could need:
www.greasel.com

Basically you just filter the crap out of the grease you get and make sure you keep plenty on hand being filtered because it takes a long time to filter a quantity to make it worthwhile. You still have to switch over to regular diesel at startup and shutdown, but a gallon would probably get you weeks down the road [img]images/graemlins/40BEER.gif[/img]
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