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#1 ·
Your friends Helen and Ted have finally saved up enough dough that they can at last buy that special wood flooring that Helen has always wanted for the kitchen.
The big day comes the second week of June and the guys get there and get right to work clearing out the kitchen.
The fridge is momentarily unplugged and scooted into the adjacent laundry area, the table is dragged into the living room and the work begins. All day long...guys in and outa the house.....many Cokes and Pepsis are drained....ice cream bars are gobbled up like mad. At the end of the day it's all done. Back goes the fridge and table; all is well with the world. Helen does notice, however, that the milk is a bit warm
. Helen knows that the fridge has been plugged in the whole time except for the half a minute that it was actually being moved, but well, it HAS been opened a lot of times in the past ten hours. The next morning the fridge is STILL running, but the milk is DEFINITELY warm, and by noon there is no escaping the grim reality.....the fridge is kaputzo; just when the checking account is down to zerosville.
OUT comes the plastic......a new box is delivered....1100 bucks (YOW!)
....and the old box is pushed out on the back steps for Jerry the Junkman.
Jerry picks up the fridge the next day, and within 24 hrs he is getting the best sex he ever had
because Mrs Jerry the Junkman has finally got the nice side-by-side fridge that she has always wanted.
Wot happened?
 
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#2 ·
The T stat got froze over after the temporary thaw. The T stat then thought everything was hunkydory since it could not detect the temperature drop. However the the temp did not drop enough to thaw the T stat. It would have corrected itself durring the next automatic defrost cycle, or could have been recycled by unplugging for about 1/2 hour.
 
#6 ·
Does the compressor on a fridge have a head to start against as a home AC unit does? maybe it should have been loeft off longer to let it bleed down?

I know form moving them ( Sears delivery Job fun fun) that if you put one on its back it should be stood upright for the same amount fo tiome plus a few hours to let the lubricant drian back into the pump. true or not, its what the Docs say.

I wouldnt know anythiung about a fridge full of pepsies and cokes really, Mine is only full of 3 day old mexican food and BEER..

 
#7 ·
I think it takes 24 to 48 hours for a fridge to stabilize. It may take that long for it to remove all of the heat from a heavy load. (packed full). The defrost timer would be the first thing to check. Listening to the compressor to see if it is running constantly, or cycling on and off from starting against high head pressure. (klixon relay) Grabbing ahold of the condenser to see if it gets hot. Remember a fridge dosn't cool, just removes the heat to the outside. (there is no such thing as cold) Checking that the mullion heaters arn't stuck on and the inside light goes out? The inside light will create more heat than most fridges can remove. Am I on the right track?
 
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#8 ·
I had this problem with the fridge that was moved when I graduated college. I sold the fridge to a girl. I told her just give me $50(what I paid for it), but only if it ran. Well it didn't, so I went back up there to take a look at it. Turns out that her dad, while moving it(I wasn't around), pressed in the cover on the back and it hung the fan up that was blowing air on the coils. The compressor still sounded like it was running. Moved the cardboad insulation out of the way, and she finished college with it. She sold it to someone else for $50, that was 4 years ago....it is still working. Best fridge I have ever seen. I have always said that I should have just kept it.

I don't know if that would be your problem, but it worked for me
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Jason
 
#9 ·
The cord go stuck in the condenser fan blade, keeping it from running. Since the fan was not blowing cooling air over the coil, not all of the refrigerant could condense into liquid form. There would be less liquid to "flash" in the evaporator absorbing the heat out of the box. The compressor continues to run but cannot do the job. If left like that indefinitely, it would eventually burn out. When they moved it out of the kitchen the second time for the junk man, they must have moved the cord off the fan blade and everything returned to normal.
 
#11 ·
Some GREAT answers!
One thing I have always liked about this BBS
is the EXPERIENCE that, collectively, is represented here. Here is what happened in this made-up scenerio: When the guys were busy with the floor project, and the house entrance door was opened and closed a lot, HUMID AIR got into the kitchen, AND when the fridge was opened repeatedly, it got in there too. The humid air put a coating of frost on the coils such that good heat transfer could not take place. The coils frosted over, and the defrost cycle couldn't quite get the frost off, so more was added and so on, until the coils were a ball of ice.
When the fridge was pushed outside it fixed itself by simply melting down.
Let X equal the number of good boxes that have been tossed out for that very reason, to the endless joy of junkmen everywhere.
I tell my kids that when the fridge seems like it's "gone south", try the 98 cent solution first.....UNPLUG for 24 hrs and see if it is iced over. My daughter saved a box for a friend by suggesting it was iced up and sure enough, they unplugged it and it puked water.
 
#12 ·
"There is no such thing as cold"....Gee dorfs, that's MY line. As an Infrared inspection guy, I am constantly having to remind my customers of that. An Eskimo can sleep in an igloo made of ice because cold doesn't radiate, and unless he actually TOUCHES the walls, he doesn't know they are cold.
 
#13 ·
I respect your wit and knowledge, but an eskimo does not sleep in an igloo because cold dosn't radiate. A warm body radiates to the cold walls, but an eskimo will have heavy carabou skins covering him to prevent that and to protect him from the convection currents and to insulate him from the conduction paths.

An Eskimo sleeps in an Igloo because snow is a fantastic insulator. It can by -50 degrees outside and body heat, possible candle, will warm the inside to near freezing. Got to be careful, anything above freezing and the eskimo will get wet and die.

To a people accustomed to very cold temps, near freezing is very tolerable. Especially when the alternative is considered. Also there diet plays a big role in it.

 
#14 ·
Your point is well taken.
Actually what I should have said was that: "an Eskimo CAN sleep in an igloo" my point was that since cold doesn't radiate it is POSSIBLE for an Eskimo to sleep/live in an igloo. As long as he keeps his body heat from HEATING the cold walls of the igloo, he's OK. Same difference. Cold doesn't radiate....only heat does.
 
#15 ·
OK... CDdave and I wrestled this one a couple of years ago so I didn't chime in.. it would be unfair because I knew the answers.

But I've had up close and personal experience with both Igloos and Eskimos. I've built and spent many a night and day in 'em and I can tell you the reasons you sleep in an Igloo...

1. It takes a lot of work to build an Igloo, and that will warm you up a little.
2. The dogs have got to have some place to sleep outta the wind.
3. It's just too damn cold to sleep outside.


Or as I used to say in Tinglet (Sorry if my spelling is a little off, I barely learned to read or write it...):

"Sikrinaktok nipamayok, sinnikpok onartok"
 
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#16 ·
Hopefully the eskimo/ Inuit has built a shelf/raised area to sleep on and a low area to allow the cold air to settle into. I love this board. Where else will you find a buch of jeepers discussing the sleeping habits of eskimos/inuits.
 
#17 ·
I don't think the eskimo would want the cold air to settle down; that would mean the air is stratisfying, trapping warm (perhaps above freezing) air at the ceiling. That could cause melting or a thunderstorm, I'm not sure which.


Perhaps a ceiling fan would do the trick???
 
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#19 ·
i thought that they built a type of vent into the top to let some of the warm air escape so as to not melt the igloo and eventually drown. as far as ceiling fans go, they would need a puller to pull the air from the bottom in order to increase circulation, not a pusher as most of us have in our homes.
 
#21 ·
Well Dave , this is a no brainer . Helen secretly sneaks away with Ted`s BFH and beats the crap out of the compressor because Ted was to cheap to replace the ugly Avacado Green fridge she`s been stuck with since the 70`s
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I bet next month something mysterious happens to the old Avacado Green stove too
. Elementry my dear Dave .

Jeff
 
#23 ·
Being Canadian and all, you'd think I were a pro on Igloos.. well, to tell you the truth, I was just taught how to make one, and I dont' know the science behind it.

Maybe Jeep-Zilla knows the answer to this one.. I'll get my dog-sled all setup and head over to his igloo..

One thing we canadians have got to watch out for is water freezing in the styrafoam cups we use as telephone/internet connections.
 
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