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#1 ·
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/6085637.htm

OK, a 17 year old kid driving a C5. Yeah... where were his parents at? In my opinion the parents should go to jail. Especially the Dad since he's a police officer.

"Hey Daddy, can I take your Vette out tonight?" You'd think the Dad would know better.

If the kid didn't have his own car he should've been DRIVING A FAWKIN' MINIVAN. Not a C5. Of course, it's "The Fast and the Furious" fault.

You can tell the two writers are retards. First they give quotes but don't say who said them.

And of course they got the hazards wrong. When you flip on your hazards it means you won. Not that you wan't to freaking race.

It's not as if Florida law is gay enough as it is. Right now it is entirely upon the Officer's judgment as to whether you were drag racing. They can even cite you for it if there is no one else around for you to race!

In Michigan they just use "excessive acceleration" to give you a ticket.
 
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#2 ·
No one takes responsibilty for their actions anymore . I agree that the parents should not have let a young kid run around in a vette . I am sure they will try and sue the producers of the movie . This litigation happy society of ours is hamstringing the nation ..... sad that he died but its more sad how he died .
 
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People who blame movies for these problems piss me off! Its all a bunch of
Like MTVs Jackass, some dumbass kid does somethin off the show, gets hurt and his parents sue the show. IF the kid doesnt have the common sense to not do the things, he shouldnt watch the show. Its parenting that is going to hell in some degree if you ask me, i know im only 18 and prolly shouldnt be talkin to much about the subject. But what about back when all the "Smoky and the Bandit" movies were running, or "The Dukes Of Hazard", were people out ramping their cars over creeks and stuff, wrecking their cars and sueing the show back then, or were they just smart enough to not do it...
Personally my mom has a 99 Regal its a fast car, and I have been allowed to drive it about twice on weekends with my friends, now street racing isnt a huge thing around here so i havent done that. going out on a empty blacktop going 75-80 is one thing, street racing is another. your not gonna see me sliding sideways around corners and hittin the "NOS" buttons to go super fast...
ill just hop off the ole soapbox now i guess
 
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what about back when all the "Smoky and the Bandit" movies were running, or "The Dukes Of Hazard", were people out ramping their cars over creeks and stuff, wrecking their cars and sueing the show back then, or were they just smart enough to not do it...

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Good point Drey
. Its silly really, to wanna blame the movies. IMHO, maybe they should raise the age limit for driving "fast" cars, but I guess the kid would be just as dead if he hit the lamp post in an old automatic Geo Metro.
And besides, all this ricer~esque street racing was big long before The Fast And The Furious came out anyway, so how could they blame it?
Rembrant
 
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less than a week ago, a 16 yr old (end of may bday) at 2:20 am with 4 ppl in the car 16, 14, 13, 12 (ages) was going 100+ in a mazda suv that his parents didn't know he took out. he apparently was racing another vehicle and cleared out a large section of trees and whatnot. article in the paper is blaming hte parents for not knowing where he was, but if he went to bed at 930 like he was supposed to, then if he snuck out how is it his parents fault?

edit, now 2/4 have passed on. one on impact and one in the hosp. 2 are still in guarded or critical condition. this occured 2 days before graduation ceremonies.

theo/stuper
 
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the dad was a cop! thiese kids do not know how to drive, they are raised in a generation without big/cheap horsepower. my 1st car was a 72GS with a 1970 stage1 350 in it, that i paid 1200 for.(that was because my dad wouldnt let me get the 80 malibu with the built 400) i know guys that have "street raced" all thier lives, but now everything is careless, too many cars in the areas whare people are racing at. i wouldnt get caught dead doing that anymore. i will raise my kids to drive, the same way i learned, like on dirt roads, full throttle, learning how th car reacts to spinning out and recovering and keeping calm. NO 17 yr old should be driving a car with that kind of potential without going to driving school or equivelent. a corvette is very unforgiving when you lose control thiers a finer line in a sports car, you cant "feel it" untill its too late and your facing the otherway. IDIOT PARENTS
 
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All the litigation makes me sick. With the Lion's club, we are looking at removing some playground equipment because we are scared that if a kid falls off and bumps their head, we will get sued (it happens!). And now there are a bunch of kids that crawl on the roof of a small building we have in one of the parks, and we have to devise a way of keeping them off - why is that OUR responsibility? And now with the fire dept, we are going to help with a new playground that's going up - thank God I'm not responsible for that one.

People make mistakes and get hurt/killed. Has always happened, and always will. Often no-one's fault but their own.
 
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i will raise my kids to drive, the same way i learned, like on dirt roads, full throttle, learning how th car reacts to spinning out and recovering and keeping calm.

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PFunk, thats exactly how i was taught to drive, out in a bean feild and pasture after harvest in a 83 Manual S10. Heck my dad encoraged me to do donuts and try controled slides. It all just makes you a better driver. I would be willing to be most Off-Roaders and Dirttrack racecar drivers are some of the best drivers around, because we really need to be able to "feel" our vehicles.
 
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...a bunch of kids that crawl on the roof of a small building we have...

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lol this reminds me of something, there was this (at the time) gigatic globe at the big park in town that i grew up in (note: not this country
) , it was easy 30' tall (including stand) and us being kids would clib it, but it scared the crap out of you because it was a pipe sceleton, so you could see straight down, and it was deacent down, i have never seen a parent stop any of the kids from climbing on to the very top of it, just the opposite, some would encourage, i was pissin my pants lol! but i finally made it (scared of hights i was lol, good times), but the mentality there was different too, basicly do what you wana do, if you screw up its your problem, if you tried to sue like here youre arse would be laughed out of the building (and then a smack for being a tard).
ever climbed on to the roof of a small enclosed power station? now that required some innovative thinking. zzzzzzzzzzzz it went lol.
 
#11 ·
Things are different in Britain. I know that much. No bull**** litigation. I remember when my friend told me that there are no pointless safety warnings. Like "do not stick hand in discharge shute while lawnmower is running" or "Coffee is hot".

When I was growing up was when the big "litigation scare" started. Pretty much all parks in my hometown lost their playground equipment like the thing you sat on that were mounted on coil springs and merry-go-rounds.

The playgrounds at elementary schools are the same way. When I was a real little kid we got a bunch of new metal and wood playgrounds. By the time I was in highschool it was all gone.
 
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Ya parents would sue if their kids got splinters or if the hot metal from the slide would burn them... It really has got totally out of hand, I feel basically the same as all fo you. My dad said he heard about this the other day, not sure if its the same person... Page won't load for me.
But a stupid miami 17 year old in a 355hp C5 is asking for trouble.... Besides that 99% of florida kids are fusking ass idiototic morons! I swear I've never seen such idiots.
Now I maybe 18, almost 19. But I have been looking for a C5.
My dad doesn't care, because I ain't the speeding type, sure I know I would take it to a drag strip and let it rip. But I wouldn't do it in town and on the freeways like these rice burner jackasses do. In a way, I hope they do sue the fast and furious, because I know they've inspired alot of idiots to do [bleep] and the rice thing has got worse.. But the again it ain't their fault like you all said.
I think I feel more sorry for the salvaged titled corvette than I do for the kid.
 
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i too remember the "dangerous" playground equipment , we had some real kid eaters out on our play ground . the merry go round that we used to tie jump ropes together and wrap them around the center post and and have a bunch of kids pull them off , spinning it like a top. there would be two kids challenging one another to see who could hang on the longest . the only way you could stay on was to wedge yourself between the bars toward the middle where the centrifugal force was less . if you didnt manage this maneuver within the first second or two , you were thrown from the merry go round with a great deal of velocity out onto a crushed rock playground ... what great fun !!!! just think of all the physics we learned about in just one playground . centrifugal force, gravity ,friction, kinetic energy , let alone the most important lesson to be learned... YOUR EVERY ACTION HAS CONSEQUENCES AND YOU WILL EVENTUALLY FACE THEM .... wether you were the looser that went skipping across the playground gravel at Warp 7 or the winner that rode it out and was now throwing up
in the corner of the playground from motion sickness ... it was good fun and no one ever got hurt real bad .... people need to step up to the plate and take resposibility for there actions and not blame someone or something for there own inability to make good judgements . in our society it seems all to easy for someone to place blame on a movie or a video rather than take the blame . ..... i hope that if i teach my boys nothing else they learn that they are responsible for all there actions and learn to deal with problems rather than blaming something else .....Von Warner
 
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distance jomps off of swings (we had metal rod hung instead of chain, some of them got wrapped around the cross member up top if some jag off would swing it too far, basicly went all the way around, for that you need stiff mounting, chains will land you in the cross member lol) never did think of the jump roap/marry go raound thing, but ours always had a busted bearing and wobled. makes me wanna go and try that now
 
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i did too the "swing jump distance circuit" , we also had a daredevil thing we did where we would run behind the person swinging on the forward swing and then lay down in the "trench" caused by kids dragging their feet . there was a "law" that you had to have your eyes open at all times and the person on the swing could try and make you flinch by swinging their legs at you when they got to the bottom .....
. these were all very well thought out "mission impossible " style adventures that we choreographed with great care to avoid the playground monitors scrutinizing eyes ... its amazing how cunning we were in first and second grade , by third grade we could pretty much attempt any stunt while half of the pack occupied the old hag that watched us during recess... ahhhhh the good old days......Von Warner
 
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We always did that stuff with the swings too. I remember back then it seemed like I was flying fifty feet, but when I go back to the old playground now I can see it was closer to 15. We used to play the game where you ran through the swings too. We called it frogger, after the videogame. We would start at one end of the swingset and see who could make it to the other end 10 swings away. It was a blast. One other game I really remember was the monkey bar chicken fights we used to have. Two kids would come at each other from opposite ends of the monkey bar and then kick punch grab, do whatever they could to knock the other kid off.

Kids these days are just too safeguarded. When I was a kid I never wore a helmet riding a bicycle, and definitely not knee and elbow pads. Kids have to learn that when they take chances they have to pay the price.

I learned to ride a minibike before I could ride a bicycle, had my own lawnmover without a cutting deck to drive around on and learned how to drive in my dad's 79 bronco as soon as I could reach the pedals.

I'm not going to say I've never done anything stupid, cause god knows I have and I've got scars to prove it, but I never tried blaming anyone else when I made a mistake. A couple years ago I had a little to much to drink and decided to jump off the roof of my Frat house. I now have a steel plate and seven screws in my leg, but I bit the bullet and paid for the doctor bills myself rather than suing my fraternity for not having the roof blocked off so people couldn't get to it. I made the mistake, I paid for it, the way it should be done.
 
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are you sure you didnt go to school in southern Oregon? that sounds like the same type of monkey bar fights we used to have . all in good fun but we occasionally saw some blood . its amazing that we survived ! i feel sorry for the kids these days that never learn to take responsibility for their actions ,what sort of adults are you going to get out of a bunch of kids that never scraped their knees or broke a bone doing something that was stupid . how can children learn from their mistakes if they believe that they never make mistakes because its always someone else's fault . the parents that sit their kids down in front of a Nintendo or whatever the new idiot box is at the moment and do their own thing are the root of this problem. they dont even take responsibility for raising their own children , why should they take responsibility for little Tommy when he goes to school and blows away half his class mates. boy it must have been that violent video game Tommy has been playing, i would imagine that the Smith and Wesson company had something to do with it also . oh yeah and the school should have had better security so they could have stopped little Tommy before he got that pistol into the school , then we could have had him sent to therepy and put him on some medication to cure his "attention defecit syndrome "......
....heck I am purdy sure I had that , I never wanted to pay attention in school. I was always thinking about fishing ,hunting, building a fort or later chasing girls . where was my medication ? how come i graduated at the top of my class? ? this just sounds like another excuse that poor parents use to slide the responsibiliy of parenthood off onto a disorder that is caused by their parenting shortfalls rather than a medical condition of the brain ..... this whole deal makes me sick
..... Von Warner
 
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I was going to chime in here but the baron spole my thoughts exactly.

....to say this, I was diagnosed with ADHD(attention deficit hyperactive disorder). My parents sent me to some shrink and had a whole gammit of tests. I was sent because.....I didn't do well in school yet I scored in the top 5% on my Iowa schoolastic tests. Basically it boiled down to I was intelligent enough but was not interested in school. I wanted to be out playing, riding the quad, skiing, etc. I could have saved everyone time and money just letting them know that school is not what I was WANTING to do, I was FORCED to do it. There is no ADHD or ADD. Its a cop-out. I have it and say its all crap.


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