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Banshee pipes (drag)

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I saw in some other posts guys asking about good banshee pipes. The best for play and racing (drag) in my opinion is the Power Pro in-frame drag pipes. CPI makes some in-frame drag pipes as well. The best generic (non-specific) pipes to buy are pretty much a toss-up between the T-5's and FMF! The worst banshee pipes I have messed with are bill's pipes, DG performance, T3, and T4! I attached a picture of my bike, it has power pro in-frame drag pipes.
 

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That guy was me, I have alot of money set aside for spiffing up my shee, and getting a new bike (enduro). SO you actually HAD dg's at one time? I narrowed it down to either pc's, fmf fatties, or maybe toomy's. Right now it look's like fmf fatties, I have motor work done and fatties work better with ported cylinder's then sst's do. I NEED to have spark arrestor's. Pc's and fmf's looked the best from what I've seen. Do the cpi's stick out far enough to burn my pant's and boot's? Do they come in ceramic and nickle plating, because chrome never holds up worth a darn on any snowmobile,atv or dirt bike pipes. It alway's eventually turn's color or rusts. Do they offer spark arrestor's? And How much of a difference will I see compared to the dg's I already have?

Feel free to PM me on this subject.
 
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They use cut t3's on strokers to help maximize torque and top end. As we all know you cant see the maximum of both! I actually had a set and hated them. Well, I liked them until I ran the fmf gold series pipes. T5's are modeled after the gold series, I am suprised fmf didn't sue toomey. Cpi's make revs and are consistent. Power pro's make more revs but aren't as consistent. I say the best all around play pipe for a modified 350 Banshee fmf (fatty, gold series, or the torque pipes). Those torque pipes on a dune bike are unbelievable. Power Pro in frame pipes come unfinished or chrome. You can have anything done. Have the outside ceramic coated, chrome the outside and ceramic the header tube. Real chrome 3a triple plate wont blue, chrome these days is not what it used to be. You can sometimes find the guys that do it right though. If the header tube is ceramic coated it wont blue (inside is ceramic coated). Helps how the bike runs too (cooler). The power pro's come with a low decibal silencer but they are not forest approved. Yes they hit your leg, 10 minutes of polishing takes the stuff off though. They are really big pipes though, bigger than the cpi's. Here is another pic of the bike. The power pro's are a drag pipe, just as the cpi's are. My bike has a finicky power band that is compensated for by gearing, carbs, and an ignition system. Don't expect to slap a set on and just ride!
 

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Hey Audiman,
You seem to know a lot about Banshee pipes , know anything about pipes for the 250r ? My 88 is bored .100 over , with CT national porting , and right now I run an FMF Fatty with an LRD silencer . I love the all around power spread it has right now , but have been kind of interested in finding more power all over . Just don't know if there's another pipe worth trying or not .
 
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Yeah I'm planning on getting a bigger carb at the end of summer anyways if things go as planned ( planning on a 330-370 powervalve cylinder kit ) . I think I have it narrowed down to either ESR , or CT's engine kit . ESR is more affordable and looks awesome , but CT does have a bigger reputation , so haven't quite made up my mind yet .
 
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I have buddies who run 330 kits, they blow up all the time. Another guy who has a ported 250 motor that ILR did is faster than those goof balls with the big bores. One of the big bores is a duncan motor. Haven't seen a powervalve big bore yet though.
 
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Audi, ceramic coated pipes will make the motor run hotter, not cooler. The ceramic keeps the heat indside and raises your header temperature. Thus, when the positive pressure wave occurs, you are forcing hotter gasses back into the combustion chamber. This can lead to detonation if the pipes were designed tight and did not allow for a ceramic coating on them.

As well, when one ceramic coats a pipe, the entire inside gas temperature is raised. This in turn raises the speed of sound in the pipe. This makes the pipe resonate at a higher rpm, but will also give you more consistant pipe operation when riding much of the time in low throttle/load scenarios.
 
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Ceramic coatings have been used for years in the snowsled industry to coat the tops of the pistons and heads to help decrease the chance of meltdown due to the extreme variance in the outside temperatures and the chance of a lean condition in the winter time. Pipes have also been coated to keep under the cowl temps cooler and to keep the gas charge inside the pipe hotter to increase speed in which the burnt gas charge pulses inside the pipe. Thus keeping the combustion process closer to 14.7:1 and maintaining a clean, fast, and efficient burning of the air/fuel mixture. Not creating a devastating lean mixture which would coincide with seizure or piston meltdown.
 
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Seems like more and more pipe maker's are offering ceramic as an option. I love the ceramic coating on my big gun exhaust. Anyhow, Audiman, look's like fmf fatties and turbine core 2's are what I'm gonna be running. The fmf fatty and power core combination on my cr125 gave it more overall power. Especially down low, wich is what I wanted and still look's nice. I ordered some other stuff for my slead and my warrior, but the tank, plastic, nerf bars, and pipes for the banshee will be next month. My carbs are tm flat slides not tmx, my bad. I'll post some more pic's of it in the sand forum later on.
 
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