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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-17-2000, 09:08 AM
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Don\'t take tips from 4x4 Power

<font color=purple>Just got done reading the article 4x4 Power did on mud racing. First of all, NMRO doesn't do many events. Why build for NMRO if they don't race in your area? Check local rules instead. Also, the "no internal mods" in class II is as false as can be. Chris Holloway's truck (shown in the article) makes about 400 horse, but still pulls the minimum vacuum required in '99 & before. 'Course, classes I & II will NOT check vacuum beginning in 2000, so now it's pretty much anything goes. And if you go to a BOG event, the large tires common in class II mud DRAGS will likely put you into a non-street class. Class III is anything BUT street legal. All of the class III trucks shown in that article are purpose-built racers that arrive at every event on a trailer (as do most of the better class II trucks). Class III trucks may LOOK like street trucks, but they definitely are NOT. The Miller Time truck pictured in the article blistered my 125-foot G.U.M.B.O. track in less than 3 seconds 08/14/00. That is a RACE truck, NOT a street truck! And where they got the idea that class IV required a windshield is beyond me. Also, outside of NMRO I can probably count on one hand the number of organizations that have something equivalent to both class V and VI. Most combine them into a single class (it's all the same racers just with different rear tires anyway) & some groups have a single class that'd cover IV, V, VI and tractor tires all in one.

So, it's nice to see an article on racing & also to know the NMRO rules when building your truck in case you want to run with them. But, I'd say the best approach to building a racer is to gather up all the rules from all the potential groups you'd race with (they'll ALL be different), and then plan your truck in a manner that it can be competitive in as many classes as possible with as many groups as possible. Really ups the fun factor this way.</font color=purple>

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post #2 of (permalink) Old 03-28-2000, 10:20 PM
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Good points on setting up a truck for the races you'll actually go to. Was that the April or May issue? I'd like to get one, I don't subscribe. Doesn't sound like the author has a real world view of the sport of mud racing. NMRO is kind of a joke for us in the lower classes. I still race at the Jambos, but mostly to see all the trucks, racing, partying, etc. I don't know when the last time an honestly stock, street driven truck won class 2 at an NMRO event (if ever). Holloway is a friend of mine. His truck runs strong and consistent (this should mean a lot coming from a Chevy die hard). We've raced together many times and I'd say 400 is a modest number.

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post #3 of (permalink) Old 03-29-2000, 02:20 PM
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<font color=purple>I posted this a couple of weeks ago, so probably the April issue - I'll see if I can find it at home tonight. You in for "chat" tonight at 8:30?</font color=purple>

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post #4 of (permalink) Old 03-29-2000, 09:19 PM
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<font color=purple>Just checked - it's the May issue, so you may be able to find it. You should pick up a copy - you'll see several familiar faces! Hey, anyone remember a couple of years ago when Tori Tellum did an article like this for 4x4 Power only used the 4XFunFest rules as a pattern??! Bet anyone who built their truck to THOSE rules is kicking himself in the ass by now![img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]</font color=purple>

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post #5 of (permalink) Old 03-30-2000, 01:05 PM
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Thanks for checking. There was a similar article last year in the short-lived "Fullsize 4x4" magazine about mud racing that was pretty much Jambo-rule based. The good part was that it had a lot of pics from the Bloomington, IL Jambo last year that showed a lot of my friends' trucks. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img] It's interesting to read a journalists' point of view on how to set up a truck for racing. After going to some of the Fun Fests, I'd say their rules were pretty loose. Then PACE got involved...[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

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post #6 of (permalink) Old 03-30-2000, 09:02 PM
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Re: Don\'t take tips from 4x4 Power

<font color=purple>Yeah, and then it was all over[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img].</font color=purple>

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