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Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

I've done some more testing on the SOA. The more I drive it the more I like it. Great flex on both axles, maxing out the shocks but got pretty good axle wrap in the rear. Pinion flenge moves up about 2" upon hard acceleration. So... I only have 5 leafs in the back that have about 2.5" of lift. I've heard others using the JC Whitney HD 6 leaf spring packs with good results. Would that cure the amount of wrap I have? I also heard that the HD CJ spring from JCW is 7 leafs but would that work on a YJ ?
Now the other solution is to fab up some traction bar system. Did anybody do that on a Ford 8.8 rear end? Should it be attached to the tubes or to the diff housing?
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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

I did the JP magazine fix for axle wrap, it helped, but DID NOT eliminate it. I built a t-bar (like the one from Sams) that WILL eliminate axle wrap due to the design. I used some shock mount tabs, one off the bottom, and one of the top of the pumpkin. I had rod ends laying around so I used them, plu it is now adjustable from 33-37" and I can adjust the shackle end height if anything gets changed in the back. It cost about 8.00 worth on sch. 80 about 2 hours and I think the rod ends are about 25 a piece, but I only used them since I had them and wanted to be able to correct for pinion angle once the tub is on.

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

Tibor- I had to run out before I had a chance to find this link.
http://www.outdoorwire.com/4x4/jeep/tech/susp/axlewrap/ When I was going to put one on my CJ5 I aked on here for opinions, but also wanted to know why certain aids didn't work. The site above does pretty good on explaining it.

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

A friend of mine used some modified "draw bars" from a local tractor supply (he says the whole assy. w/ heims is only $10). He made one that attaches on the top center of the pig. The other attaches to the drivers side tube via a bracket. I don't know what it was like before, BUT it really hooks up now!



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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

Huummmm...
You can ramp up and down all you want
and stretch your frame into a knot.
You can hear it groan and feel it pop,
but getting traction is where it's not.
SOA = hop, hop, hop.

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

Your making me cry here munh.

That was beautiful.

Do you think insurance will cover the carb if it some how "teleports" behind the tires of a 350 with dualies?
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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

i've had good luck with mine, http://www.geocities.com/yj3qtr_ton/rearsus.html it don't limit my suspension movement. i think a stiffer leaf(leafs) would

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img] Jaffer you poet... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

A guy had a dream,
to get himself a Jeep,
He thought and he bought,
His name was Pete.

He wanted to wheel it,
And build it up right.
He dreamed while at work,
And while he slept at night.

"Spring-Over Axle",
he heard them all say.
"Flex like you dream of,
Only takes like a day."

So Pete, our hero,
Looked into it more.
'Axle wrap', it's called.
But what a ramp score!

Spring, springs,
and springs some more.
"Add-a-leafs, S10s, and
JC Whitney", they roar.

Welding and cutting,
to our hero, not fun.
"More money, more money",
And Pete's Jeep couldn't run.

His friends would go out,
And Jeep all day long,
With their spring under lifts,
"Real wheelin' day", their song.

Pete would stay home,
And work on his truck,
Caster, spring wrap,
Man, WTF?!?

Steering not right,
Tie rod's exposed.
"More money", they yell.
Another slap on the nose.

The moral of the story,
Quite easy to see,
4.5" Extreme.
Call up R.E.

Stay Spring under,
you will not regret.
Spring over axle
will lead you to debt.

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

Here is a picture of the ones I made. They were bent control arms from a front wheel drive car. Got them at a frame shop for free. They don't limit travel (I ramped 1184 last time).

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Re: Got axle wrap. Traction bar or more leafs?

I love you guys! [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img] Where else could one get the emotional support needed for this hobby? And the poetic souls abound... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img] Nuf of that. So, I was thinking of fabbing a similar system like 3/4ton has but I was concerned about it attaching to the tubes. The Ford 8.8 is known to twist it's tubes sometimes so wouldn't this increase the chance for that? If I to attach it to the pig how would that be welded on? Hi Nic rods? I'm also trying to come up with something for the interim that will get me by at the Paragon run in 2 weeks. Not much time. I was thinking of using an extra leaf from my buddy's old 4" spring pack as a temporary help.


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