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jamgood96 07-10-2001 12:27 AM

Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
Well, I'm inching closer to getting my axles installed into my YJ. Well, I noticed the thread today about the cable locker. I guess I should of considered this route before I threw the Detroits in. My thoughts are possible pulling the Detroit out and selling it. Then buying an Ox-locker and installing it myself. How hard would it be to install? Could I just pull the detroit and ring gear out and pop the new one in? Or do I have to reset all the measurements? My other thought was driving my YJ with the Detroit and seeing how I like it. But if I don't like it, that means I'll be out of a Jeep while I do the new install. So it seems most logical to swap now if I'm going to. What opinions do you all have? Only thing I'm scared about is how new the Ox is. It'll be my luck and they'll release a newer version after I get mine installed:) Thanks!

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elusive 07-10-2001 06:59 AM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
1. relax
2. enjoy your detroits
3. spend the $$$ on something you need to get the jeep more completed

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**DONOTDELETE** 07-10-2001 07:17 AM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
I'm with elusive on this one. Just go wheelin and you'll be so psyched on the detroits that you won't have to worry about your buildup anymore and you can finally just start enjoying your jeep for a while.

G-Man
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jeepgod 07-10-2001 08:23 AM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
no kidding.. forget that fancy dancy yahoo stuff.. throw the detriot in.. and forget about it.. spend your cash on something more useful.. like chrome bumpers.. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/laugh.gif[/img]

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kerryp 07-10-2001 08:42 AM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
I agree with the posts above, My brother in law bought one and right now they are back ordered for weeks anyway, so go with what ya got. The only issue I see with detroits are turning the tight corners when locked, thats when the cable/air locker comes in handy, or twin sticks (on a 300) to allow you to disengage the front to turn easier.

82 Scrambler/360/T5/D300/4" SUA/AMC20/Rear Discs/Somers Bros Axles/D30/3:73's/Lockrite Lockers.
2001 Bare Stock Trendy Jeep Sport (everyday driver)
Smithville, Texas
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jamgood96 07-10-2001 07:25 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
Already got my chrome bumpers picker out!![img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img] J/K. I'm not too worried about turning tight corners with the front engaged. If it gets too bad, I'll just throw in Teraflex's 2wdlow conversion so I can shift to only the rear. The only reason I considered the Ox was because of street manners. I'm guess I'm just a bit scared that it might drive like sh!t on the street, especially with all the rain we get in Oregon. Is it really that bad, or will I be fine?

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**DONOTDELETE** 07-10-2001 07:37 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
id be interested in that detrroit if you are serious



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SonoraBob 07-10-2001 10:11 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
I went with a Detroit in the rear for about three years. And boy am I glad to have the ARB's.

On the trail, they are great. On the street, the banging and clunking was very annoying.

It is true that turning a locked front end is difficult. I usually leave the ARB's open until needed. It is suprising sometimes how far you can go without locking up.

As far as the cable locker, let someone else try them. They are too new for me to spend money on. I don't want to be the mfg's guinea pig. Especially when they cost as much as an ARB that have been proven for years.

CJ-8, 4.0, NP435, D44 x D60, ARB's, 4w Disc, 2"YJ springs, SOA, 1" Body lift, 38.5" TSL SX

CJ-6, Cherokee

W.C. 07-11-2001 04:11 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
Hard time turning a front with a locked Detriot???, Add a hydro assisted steering setup.
No levers, no cables, no tierod clearance issue, no O-rings, No switches, just lock the hubs and wheel,,,,just an opinon, keep it simple.


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SonoraBob 07-11-2001 04:21 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
Doesn't hydro assisted steering sound like more broken parts to you? It does me.

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W.C. 07-11-2001 05:20 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
A ram and two hoses, that's all thats added, then you just tap into the steering box. As long as the hose fittings are routed "up" from the ram, the hoses are relatively safe and rams can take a pounding without breaking. If a hose does break, you disconnect it at the box and cap the fitting, you still have power steering or carry a spare hose, It's trial fixable. I've never seen a broken Detroit(but heard of only a few in the 30something years I've wheeled) but I've seen broken manual lockers many times and when they do break they are rarely trail fixable. On mine, the tierod(where ram is mounted)is behind the axle so its very protected. This is just what works for me, everythings breakable, I just think this breaks less.

Wayne @ Big Island RockCrawlers
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spook2 07-11-2001 08:09 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
I'm with WC on this one. I just got back from a charity run in WV and saw at LEAST two different individuals with ARB's that to me were a pain in the butt. Leaking/bursting hoses, popping out of "gear", etc. I didn't see/hear of anyone blowing out a manual locker.


spook2 07-11-2001 08:14 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
WC: I'm installing a hydro-boost brake system on my CJ and am curious about the addition of a ram assisted steering system. Is there enough pump under the hood to run both systems? I'd really like to have both systems as I perceived steering and brakes to be my two main weak links on this past run. I'm just unclear as to whether both systems can live together and be run from a single pump.


**DONOTDELETE** 07-11-2001 09:40 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
I've driven with Detroit's for almost two years, and have only heard (and felt) the rear twice on the road. Both times I was giving it a fair amount of throttle from a stop as I was turning. It's pretty loud, and anyone around is looking to see what you broke. I hardly ever even notice that they're there, except when I'm off road. I didn't have a problem in snow either, and I'm no old lady behind the wheel. My wife has never had a problem driving the jeep either. I say get 'em and forget 'em!

Darren


W.C. 07-12-2001 07:42 PM

Re: Locker Dilema - Need opinions!
 
Sorry to all about changing the topic of this thread,
spook2, you can slightly modify the pump to increase pressure and volume. The info is on my site, its EZ.

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