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timCsjeep 07-01-2001 10:27 PM

whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
I was planning on making my own hard brake lines for sure but then i took my old ones off and they are really complicated. I know people on this board have made their own so what are the tricks? I want to make sure i get it right, and i would prefer to go with stainless lines. Thanks- Tim

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JEEPN 07-01-2001 10:45 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Good luck double flaring stainless. The lines must be double flared to hold, which isn't a problem with the right tool. Stainless is hard to double flare, almost impossible, so I'd just go with regular or shell out the $$$ for the premade stainless.

JEEPN
Winter Harbor, Maine
'81 CJ-8 Scrambled, It's a Jeep, Chevy, IHC kinda thing!
'88.5 Zuki, 5" Calmini, Locked, Swamped, Rolled, and just generally broken in right!

**DONOTDELETE** 07-01-2001 11:03 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
I just posted this same thing for a/c lines, I'm pretty sure a shop that makes and repairs hydraulic lines can make these for a fraction of over the counter.I know they can make the a/c lines.


redbeard 07-02-2001 12:31 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
When I was in the process of redoing the brake lines on the Willys I just bought straight pieces of regular metal brake lines.
Of course some of them were too long so I had to modify them.
The only tool needed were a pipe cutter and a flaring tool.
This flaring tool is great and in the past 9 months I have had no leaks so far so I am assuming the tool works well.
I never have tried flaring stainless, but flaring regular brake lines was easy enough, so if you are doing this yourself I would go with regular lines.
Besides, the regular lines shouldn't rot away for 30 years or so.

Member TX 4X4 club Arlington Chapter
1946 CJ-2A ---- stock and rebuilt
1987 XJ ---- stock
1996 XJ ---- stock daily Driver

**DONOTDELETE** 07-02-2001 01:52 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
I don't think you need to double flare s/s lines, if I remember right they are single flare at around 37 deg, s/s will crack and split if you double it.
Ask the parts salesman, if he is any good he will know, and be able to supply you the right tools.

THE LAST THING YOU NEED IS TO LOSE YOUR BRAKE ON THE TRAIL!

Keep jeep-n

75 CJ-5, 304, locked 44, 33X12.5 BFG's, Wheeling Alaska


jamgood96 07-02-2001 03:24 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
That would suck to loose brakes on the trail. But I think it could suck even more on the freeway doing 65[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img]Eat, Sleep, JEEP[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
"James and the Giant Jeep"
1993 Wrangler 4.0/5spd, Herculined Interior, D44 w/Detroits and 4.56 soon to go in SOA

LEVE 07-02-2001 04:14 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Me[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img]....

I made my own on the CJ and also replaced half the brake lines on the Bronco II. I do draw the line at felxible line from the hard break line to the wheel cylinder of the caliper assembly. That I buy.

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timCsjeep 07-02-2001 07:44 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
So i need a tube cutter, a flare tool, and a tube bender right? Or can i skip the tubing bender if i get annealed or doubled annealed tubing? thanks- Tim

BTW- about a month ago someone noticed that the "new" Hamerite flaked easy. Has anyone had any problems with the new formula they use?

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**DONOTDELETE** 07-02-2001 08:09 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
get a Good cutter and a cheapo bender. I like to use a little more material in the dbl. flare than most flare kits recommend...try to save a factory flare to check your work against. Always keep your mind on the tube you are bending, you need to remember up/down right/left parallel/perpendicular, it sounds simple, but it's easy to screw-up ...I like to mount the flare tool in a vise, so I can get good leverage, Take your time, it aint a spaceship, but you should be able to do a better looking job than most mechanics. When your done mash the pedal and hold it down, if it leaks fix it, if not, move on and don't give it a second thought.


Rockcrusher 07-02-2001 10:31 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
You might want to look in to Ferulock fittings from Parker Hannifin. They eliminate the need for flaring. They're expensive but as far as I'm concerned, they're well worth the added cost.

They come in steel and s/s flavors and will handle the pressure with ease.

Rockcrusher
Nevada ORU
http://www.rockcrusher4x4.com

**DONOTDELETE** 07-04-2001 08:19 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
...Look in JC Whitney...they have stainless steel brake kits from $149.00...complete with the 3 flex lines and are pre-bent for every vehicle...my brothers jeep went together great with that kit.

Mark (OIIIIO) Langmotorsports(business)
1977/CJ7/Glasstub/460ciFord/C6Auto/NP205/4"LIFT/33'S

**DONOTDELETE** 07-04-2001 10:37 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Remember we're talking about brake lines.....(high pressure) and you sure don't want them to fail on you.



LEVE 07-04-2001 10:53 AM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Tim, I'd like to second Mudmanic's suggestion if you really don't wish to build your own lines. That's not a bad price for a complete set of SS lines AND the three Flex lines. If I remember when I rebuild mine last year the NAPA brake flex line from the rear hard line to the axles was <font color=red>$28</font color=red> and the font lines were <font color=red>$35</font color=red> each. The sections of hard line I used was about $7, and I used three, one 3/8" section and three 3/16" sections, and then there were a couple of fittings. If you don't want the hassle of building your own, the JCW kit seems quite reasonable to me.

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timCsjeep 07-04-2001 03:03 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Wow $150 is a great price for the whole kit. Not that am not up to making my own... But for that price, i guess i will have to do it[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

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ducmon900 07-04-2001 09:46 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
Buy your tube bender at home depot, they have two, one for 25 and one for 10, same thing and they work great.


Dunckelman 07-05-2001 05:48 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
FYI - I work for Parker Hannifin, Tube Fittings Division. I would be glad to offer any assistance or information you need on Ferulok fittings. I hadn't really thought about using them on a brake line. But, obviously this would work well.

Allen Dunckelman


timCsjeep 07-06-2001 10:19 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
mud- I looked all over the web site for the brake lines, but i couldn't find them. Can you help? That is a really great price.

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Jeepzilla 07-07-2001 08:57 PM

Re: whos brave enough to make their own brake lines??
 
I re-did all the brakelines on my 79 CJ . My local auto parts store has pre-made steel brakelines from 15" all the way to 7ft.( in 6 " increments) I borrowed a cheapy bender and measured my old lines with string and then went and bought the closest length . I did my whole CJ for under 35 bucks ( including to the master from the proportioning valve) . It just takes some time fiddling with the bender and getting the angles right .
Good luck .

Jeff

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