J10 T-18 in a CJ? - Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups
Jeep-Short Wheelbase All discussion of short wheelbase Jeeps: CJ, TJ, YJ and JK

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of (permalink) Old 06-06-2001, 05:46 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
J10 T-18 in a CJ?

I just picked up a 78 J10 4X4 with a (I assume) T-18 4 speed. Now I know these things had some kind of an adapter between the box and the bellhousing. The big question is will it work in a CJ or will the shifter be in the back seat? Also, whats up with that Xcase J shift pattern?

76 CJ5,2.5" lift/Rancho 9000's,258/T-177/D300,HEI,Offy,Locked F&R
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of (permalink) Old 06-06-2001, 08:07 PM
Pooh-Bah
 
pbmcauliffe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bremerton, WA.
Posts: 2,066
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

Yes the dana 20 in it has a "J" shift pattern. Using the transmission and tcase directly out of the J10 would give you a rear shaft of about 12" long and a steep angle.
Do a search on it, it was covered a couple times in the last month about what needs to be changed. My T18 came from a Ford (so it was already short), and my J10 has a TF727, so can't look at that for help either.

pbm
74 cj5,304,t18,2.46 ts d20,30f,44r,soa,MORE buggy front,35's,Rci's,5pt,full cage,air,etc.
78 J10,360,727,d20,44f,44r,35's,4" lift,etc.
<font color=red>Support Search and Rescue.......Get Lost!</font color=red>
pbmcauliffe is offline  
post #3 of (permalink) Old 06-06-2001, 08:14 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

If the J10 had a 258, it would not have the adapter box on the front. Otherwise, if it does have the long shaft, you need to change the input shaft to a Ford as well as the bearing retainer and pilot bushing. These link do the long shaft swap:

http://www.offroaders.com/info/tech-...18-rebuild.htm
http://users.rcn.com/jeepfan/t18_swap.htm

-Jay
Denver, CO
1978 CJ-5 258 Weber, 'glass body
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of (permalink) Old 06-07-2001, 07:03 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 5,140
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

I thik I remember the FSJ T18 even behind a 6 cylinder had a longer input shaft than the Ford version ( approx 6.5 inches)

I know for a fact the FSJ V8 version T18 has LONG about 15 inch inpout shaft and a spacer.

IM thinking the 258 version is about 8 or 9 inches long with no adapter?
but that doesnt make much sense does it, hmmmm

maybe it is the short one, around 6.5 is the one you want to use a T150 bellhousing and get the shortest setup possible.



OzarkJeep

"Bare foot girls, dancing in the moon light..."
ozarkjeep is offline  
post #5 of (permalink) Old 06-07-2001, 07:13 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

I'm not sure if the J10 258/T-18 combo is uses the same length bellhousing as the CJ's, but I would assume it would. I have seen the Jeep T-18 inputs from a 258 and yes, they are a bit longer than the Ford T-18's by about an inch or so. They have a longer pilot tip and the pilot bushing goes way in the crank, similar or the same as the one for the T-150. The Ford T-18 requires the pilot bushing that sets out a bit further in the crank to accomodate the shorter shaft.
I can't say for sure though, because I haven't seen a J-10 258/T-18, but I have seen a CJ 258/T-18.



-Jay
Denver, CO
1978 CJ-5 258 Weber, 'glass body
post #6 of (permalink) Old 06-07-2001, 08:02 PM
Keyboard Implanted
 
elusive's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: temecula, CA
Posts: 4,893
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
 
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

jeepgod has a t-18 ans a d-20 in his cj-7 and the length is fine.. it does have about a 5" adapter in it, but the shifter is in a good place and the rear driveshaft is plenty long

~~Elusive~~
http://www.jeepgod.com
elusive is offline  
post #7 of (permalink) Old 06-07-2001, 08:15 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

The t-18 on the J10 has a 5" spacer in front of it, if you remove this spacer you will end up with a really long input shaf that will require swaping for a short version. Now if you are installing it on a cj-7 you can leave the spacer and you will have a rear drive shaft couple inches shorter which will be no real problem. Now if you are installing on a cj-5, then you will need to get the short input shaft.
junior

post #8 of (permalink) Old 06-07-2001, 08:45 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

Actually closer inspection has revealed (I brought it home today) that the 6 cyl. vehicles have no spacer, just a bellhousing that is about 1 1/2" deeper than the CJ. Outta work.

76 CJ5,2.5" lift/Rancho 9000's,258/T-177/D300,HEI,Offy,Locked F&R
post #9 of (permalink) Old 06-08-2001, 10:16 PM
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Posts: 534
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: J10 T-18 in a CJ?

I used a J10 T18 in my CJ in place of the t150. The T18 came from a 6 cylinder, 258 J10.
I bolted it up in place of the t150 without a problem. The input shafts on the t150 and T18
were exactly the same length. If you have a 258 in the J10 IT WILL bolt up just fine.

Alec

'78 CJ7 258 T18/dana 20...dana 30/amc 20 w/ mosers & lockrights...
'glass body w/ tied in full cage...warn x8000i

http://members.aol.com/fastflyn31/page1.html
Alec78CJ is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome