I Do This For The Glory
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Nobleboro, Maine
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Re: Two posts in one-tires
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To each his own, but I have to dissagree with you about the tires making a difference. Sure the driver is the key, in any vehicle, but the type of tires DO make a difference as to what you can grip when on the trail! It's a combination of man and machine. And there's many a time I pulled out a similar Jeep with lesser tires (than my BFG MT's) that had nothing to do with the driver, just a matter of traction.
Keep on Jeepin'
How true! The president of our jeep club came down to the midcoast once and left his Swampers at home due to the 100 mile journey. He slapped on a set of 33's (same size), but they were a no-name tire with OK traction, more designed for road than off-road. He aired down as usual and commenced the trail. Boy did it suck. He was swearing the whole day at his tires, and you could see what a bad time he was having. He was locked front and rear, and I was able to go more places with my Swampers and open diffs. He's a much better driver than I am, or probably ever will be, so that day the tires made all the difference.
We also have a friend that switched from 33" Mud Kings to 33" BFG Mud Terrains (similar looking tread and both made by BFG) and what a difference. He figured he'd save a few $$ and buy the cheaper tire, but he was so disappointed he got rid of them. Won't run anything else now.
I run 31" Riken Raiders (bought them cheap and 1/2 worn) on the road to get to the wheeling spots. I keep the 33" Swampers in the bed and change them at the site (along with dropping the top and doors). I know Swampers don't wear well on the road, especially locked, so I compromise. Sure, it might take me a little more time, but since I have the room, what the heck.
For the TJ we use BFG Muds. They're a great all around tire, good traction off-road and on-road, and wearbility as well. The BFG AT's are OK, but not nearly as good off-road. I think the AT's do better in the snow though. For a tire that does everything, the BFG Mud is the only tire to get, IMHO of course!
You get what you pay for in a tire. I've learned my lesson the hard way more than once thinking I was smarter than I really was. Each tire also has a specific purpose. I've seen 33" Boggers worn bald at 5K due to road use ("But they look cool, man"), and new Firestone's suck off-road, resulting in the ice-skating effect ("but they say Mud and Snow on them"). Tires are definitly not a place to skimp.
'81 CJ-8 Scrambled!
GM151/SM465/NP205 twinstick/7"Lift/33"TSL's/IHC D44's 4.10's Lock'd