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What is the approximate weight of a stock CJ5 with a 258 6 cylinder?

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Re: Weight

'77 tech manual sez, soft top 3750 GVWR, hard top 4150 GVWR.

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Re: Weight

Thanks for the figures, badvibrations. Last night a buddy of mine was trying to tell me that his CJ5 weighs about the same as a Suzuki Samurai. I tried to tell him that a CJ5 weighs over 1,000 lbs more than a Zuk. A stock Samurai weighs just a little under 2,000 lbs so it's about 1,750 lbs lighter.

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Re: Weight

Damn...acording to the manuals, my wrangler weighs less than 3500 with the hard top. I guess the advent of aluminum transmisions and transfercases really makes a difference. I might have to reconcider spring options when I switch to the 5liter/np435/np205.

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Re: Weight

Best way I have ever found out is to put my vehicle on the scales at the race track. They have scales to get vehicle as well as vehicle and driver weight. I go with some friends to bracket race on Friday nights and the scales are always open. Plus it's free.

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Re: Weight

badvibes,
GVWR is not the curb weight, it is the maximum weight of the vehicle when fully loaded. Assuming CJ's were still considered 1/4 ton in '77, curb weight would be 3250 soft top without payload.

Early CJ5's are much lighter than late ones. My '55 weighs about 2200. I need to weigh it now that I restored it, but I think it should still be that way. The tranny and case in it weigh about 120, the axles weigh about 100 each, the body weighs about 250, and the engine weighs about 500.
I think all the extra weight in the later ones comes from the heavier engines and drivetrain. My '55 has a 3- speed T-90 and a Spicer 18 case, both of which are cast iron but pretty small. The rear axle is a Dana 44, and the front is a Dana 25. It has an 11 gallon gas tank under the seat. The '55 has a 4" shorter wheelbase than the '77 and has very light manual steering and non-power brakes. The Buick 225 is cast iron but very compact compared to a 258 or V-8. It is actually lighter than the original F4-124 that was in there (At least it is with the aluminum intake). All that extra cast iron adds up!
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