SOA with Stock YJ Springs? - Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups
Jeep-Short Wheelbase All discussion of short wheelbase Jeeps: CJ, TJ, YJ and JK

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2001, 08:45 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

i have a 2.5L and will be running 33's for awhile and plan on going SOA in the rear with Stock YJ springs with maybe 1 add a leaf, (4.5" Re Extrame in front).

will i have to worry about spring wrap and snapping u joints with a 2.5L?

just how long do the Stock YJ springs last with SOA?

thanks for any info

[b]Boston Mangler
89 YJ With A Bunch Of Goodies
See It At:
http://www.yankeetoys.org/mangler/
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2001, 09:10 PM
Veteran
 
kutyafal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Dale City, VA
Posts: 1,324
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

Well I've actually seen a YJ all done up SOA with stock springs. In his case it was a sorry sight. Given time it'd turn into a low rider. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img] His springs were already arched the wrong way after 2 months! __---`````---__ Add a leaf would help the sag and spring wrap or try a good set of 2" - 2.5" lift srings. Snapping u-joints would be a matter of tcase/pinion alignment. It doesn't matter how much lift you have (within the u-joint's max operating angle) as long as the angles are the same you should have no vibration but could slip the slip yoke off the splines. Of course the u-joints max angle of operation can be quickly exceeded during axle droop then you'll start snapping joints. This is what is happening to my buddy's rig constantly which has a 4" lift and 2" shackle lift without an SYE. Course I'm just an amateur so I might be making all this stuff up but I did stay at the Holiday Inn. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img]


'91 YJ,I-6,2.5" lift,Boomerangs,33s,D30,D35c,Lock-Rights F&R
kutyafal is offline  
post #3 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2001, 09:10 PM
Can't Get Enough
 
jeeperjohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: The Plywood State.... Florida
Posts: 1,340
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

I have a 6 cyl YJ with a spring over. With the stock springs I had axle wrap that was bad enough it would allow the rear drive shaft yokes to hit each other (and damaged a 3 week old drive shaft I solved this by cutting the eyes off a factory YJ main leaf and adding it and the second leaf from the donor spring pack. If I try to make the axlewrap I can, but I have not noticed it at any other time. My guess would be that you will be OK.




"Honestly, I didn't lift the Jeep.
I,um..ah..lowered the axles"
jeeperjohn is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2001, 09:14 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

hmmmm

[b]Boston Mangler
89 YJ With A Bunch Of Goodies
See It At:
http://www.yankeetoys.org/mangler/
post #5 of (permalink) Old 05-10-2001, 09:32 PM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

Kevin,

I am going to be doing exactly what Jeeperjohn said , but using stock J main leafs to supplement my OME 2.5" springs.

I'm going to try that out and see how the axle wrap goes BEFORE I do an anti-wrap bar. Maybe the 4banger won't need one. You can check out my set-up in July at EMWF. (I should be done by then....)

Charly

You say tomato, I say fawk you.
post #6 of (permalink) Old 05-11-2001, 12:48 AM
Grinch
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

i have a 4cyl and used to run stock springs.. i actually had the RE HD stock springs up front (worked great), but in the rear i had the stock ones.. i had major spring in the passenger rear leaf.. but i was also running buggy leaves, which I think contributed.. could be the lower gearing, etc.. i ran this about 2 years... didn't experience much sag with frequent rockcrawling (suprisingly).. i am now about to run 2.5" OMEs all around ..and took of the buggyleaves... should be fine, i'll give you an update in a few days..

post #7 of (permalink) Old 05-11-2001, 12:49 AM
Grinch
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

i have a 4cyl and used to run stock springs.. i actually had the RE HD stock springs up front (worked great), but in the rear i had the stock ones.. i had major spring wrap in the passenger rear leaf.. but i was also running buggy leaves, which I think contributed.. could be the lower gearing, etc.. i ran this about 2 years... didn't experience much sag with frequent rockcrawling (suprisingly).. i am now about to run 2.5" OMEs all around ..and took of the buggyleaves... should be fine, i'll give you an update in a few days..

post #8 of (permalink) Old 05-11-2001, 05:36 AM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

Kev, Instead of stock YJ springs, try stock CJ springs. The rear CJ's will fit a YJ. I have the 7 leaf heavy dudy ones you get from JC whitney $69 delivered.
You can't beat that. So far so good. They are very stiff at first, but what stays stiff for long when it's SOA.



Rob
http://sites.netscape.net/tapboxerc/homepage
post #9 of (permalink) Old 05-11-2001, 06:28 AM
**DONOTDELETE**
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

my buddy did a SOA using stock leaves, and I'm about to do one on mine. The key is you need to have either a doubled main leaf or an add a leaf AND an anti wrap device. From what I've heard most of the spring sag happens in the rear and is due to spring wrap. With the stock leaves alone you WILL get spring wrap.

My buddy fabricated his own anti wrap bar, similar to Sam's, using some DOM tubing, steels plate, a left over stock shackle, and left over stock shackle bushings at all mounting points. Solved his spring wrap problems there and then, and we tested it before and after and it made no noticeable difference on a ramp. Made his life a whole lot easier, though, just not having to wince every time the spring wrapped. Now his springs seem to be behaving and lasting a lot better.

My advice would be to go for the add a leafs (that's what I'm doing), and make sure you get an anti wrap bar.

Chad

Chad Lloyd 95 YJ 4.0 NP435 EBD20 woodies D44s 4.88 detroits SOA revolvers 35 X 15.5 SXs 8274
post #10 of (permalink) Old 05-11-2001, 08:47 AM
Pooh-Bah
 
pbmcauliffe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Bremerton, WA.
Posts: 2,066
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
 
Re: SOA with Stock YJ Springs?

I used stock YJ leafs for my SOA without an add a leaf and without an anti wrap device. After one good day of wheelin the jeep was down about 1" all the way around, and spring wrap was extremely noticeable, but didn't break anything in three or four trips that way. I eventually tried the "fix" from JP magazine, but used wagonner springs, wich helped but didn't eliminate the spring wrap. The next step is to go to a setup like the Sams bar which will eliminate the wrap.

pbm
74 cj5,304,t18,2.46 ts d20,30f,44r,soa,MORE buggy front,35's,Rci's,5pt,full cage,air,etc.
78 J10,360,727,d20,44f,44r,35's,4" lift,etc.
Support Search and Rescue.......Get Lost!
pbmcauliffe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Off-Road Forums & Discussion Groups forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome