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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-30-2001, 09:56 AM Thread Starter
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JEEP for Dummies

I know VERY little about Jeeps, and I don't plan on ever owning one, but I'm curious about all the different model designations: CJ, YJ, TJ, ZJ, XJ, etc... What is the full list of these abbreviations (?) and what does each mean? Do they refer to years - like the 70's F-150 vs. the '80-96 F-150 vs. the current F-150? Or are they different models - was a CJ produced at the same time as a TJ? Is it a body style - all the short-wheelbase jeeps look pretty similar to me, but I can tell the diff btw. an old military one and a new one. I'm looking for a comprehensive explanation, if there's one to be had.

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Re: JEEP for Dummies

http://www.off-road.com/jeep/swb/articles/specgrid.htm
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/

Those two should get you started.


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Re: JEEP for Dummies

If you don't understand by jeepn's link.
Well CJ=a long time ago until-1986 Shortwheelbase jeeps.
YJ=87-95 Shortwheelbase jeeps
TJ=97-present Shortwheelbase jeeps
They changed over these years too..not just names

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You would probably change your mind about owning a Jeep if you ever drive one. Bronco's are ok, had one myself. But the Jeep is better. There seems to be a bond between Jeep and owner that I have never had with any other vehicle I have owned.

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Cj= civilan jeep up to 86. the last thing closest to a real jeep. made by AMC
yj= yuppie jeep. some still had the amc 258. made by chrysler
tj= trendy jeep. make by chrysler

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Re: Bond

What makes you think I've never driven one? I've driven M151A2's and CJ's (?I'm guessing) off-road, and a Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and whatever the '99 SWB Jeep is called (TJ?) on-road. Most of the Bronco owners I've talked to have the same attachment you describe. I chose mine based on its make (Ford), engine (I-6), and transmission (manual). But I've come to appreciate it for its size (inside & out), passenger capacity (7 adults in seat belts), cargo capacity (~2000 lb), towing capacity (~10,000 lb), security (full hardtop & locks), and ease of maintenance/repair/upgrade (17 years of parts interchangeability with millions of vehicles).

I understand that Jeeps are lighter, smaller, and have fewer things to break, but they are less functional for me for those same reasons.

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uh, M151A2's aren't jeeps.

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Re: Uh

OK So it's an AM/General product. Are you saying it's a significantly different vehicle from a Willy's or CJ from a "Jeep experience" point-of-view? That was the point of my statement - that I had driven the vehicle; not who manufactured it.

BTW Since the word "Jeep" came from the Ford version of the Willy's Overland design being called a "General Purpose" / "G.P." / "jeep", I'd say a 151 is more of a "Jeep" than a CJ/YJ/TJ. But that's just me.

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Re: Uh

Actually, the M151A2 is a Willys built model. The first M151s were designed and built by Ford. Willys won the contract back to build the A2s, using US Army plans.

The story that Jeep is a slurring of the term "General Purpose" is not founded in history. Ford's prototype in the original contract bid was called the "Pygmy" and the pre production model was designated "GP"....the "G" stands for "Government contract" and the "P"...80" wheelbase recon car. As you can see, "General Purpose" was never officially used. In the original competition, Ford's entry performed third behind the Willys Quad and the Bantam Pilot #1. However, the Army liked the overall body style of the Ford so it was adopted as the model for the future "look" of the "truck,1/4 ton, 4x4", which was (and is) the official Army designation for the Jeep.

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Uh ... I don't think Willys ever had anything to do with the M151A2 since they folded up in 1953 and the -A2 didn't hit the streets until 1970.

I may be mistaken but I believe the -A2 was built by Ford & AM General under license from Ford. Some M151's & -A1's may have been built by Kaiser Jeep Corp. but that would been 1970 or earlier.

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