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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-25-2001, 04:40 PM
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Hey i was wondering if any of you could tell me if the TSL swamper 32"x9.50 is any where neer as agresive as the 34"x9.50. I know what the 34" tire looks like but never seen the 32" tire. How about a pic TY SCRAM

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Yes, I know a few people running them, they look just like the 34's only a little smaller. Too bad they stopped making the 34x10.5, now that's a nice size.

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if you want aggressive, why go with the TSL?? I have never run swampers but, it seems from looking at the TSL, that you are not buying much more than a good mud tire (like a BFG or Cooper...) Some SX's or SSR's or the boggers are all VERY aggressive. Just an opinion, but the TSL has not lived up to what it is intended to do from what I have heard.

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are the sx's or ssr's more agresive? I Have always liked the tsl in larger sizes but never run the smaller ones so dont know much about them. SCRAM

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Just one question jpthng. How can a tsl swamper be no more aggresive then a bfg or cooper? Not really sure what you looked at but i know the tsl's on my cj are a lot more aggresive then the bfgs.

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I agree with pontiac the tsl's are a lot more aggressive then the bfg's and all around a nice tire.

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not saying they aren't a good tire. It just seems that for the amount you pay for a tsl versus a bfg, it just isn't worth it. From everything I have heard, they seem to clog just like a BFG or similar mud tire. Its just an opinion, but if I were throwing down the greenbacks and getting swampers, I would avoid the TSL's. Even looking at them up close, they just don't look as good as the sx's or boggers.... IMHO of course.

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Jpthng, what Swampers are you looking at to say that BFGs are more aggressive? TSLs are the original Swampers, and they have more void area than any other mud tire except the Boggers. Void area is what allows the tires to fling out the mud and self-clean. The TSL-SX tires are wider for the given height, ie 33-12.5x15 is a TSL size and 33x15.5x15 is a TSL-SX size, and the -SXs have the tread that wraps around darned near to the bead. Other than that, they have the same void ratio. Price-wise, the TSLs are less money than comparable BFGs. They are bias ply tires, which give them more sidewall plies and therefore more strength than the BFG radials. In mud, Swampers have no equal. None. Don't get me wrong, BFGs are a good tire, and there are lots of them sold, but mud=Swampers.

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You have obviously never run one or you'd know. I have run both, and there is no comparison between the BFG's and the bias Swampers. As to the SX's, they aren't as rugged as the TSL's. I know they're supposed to be, but look at the stats at http://www.intercotire.com and watch them in action. The TSL has tougher sidewalls (more belts) and deeper tread. The main difference is they're available in different sizes. The SX's are wider and have larger lettering on the sides. As to the price, the 33x12.5 BFG is $142, the 33x12.5 TSL is $133, and the 33x15.5 SX is $183; the 35x12.5 BFG is $155, the 36x12.5 is $159, and the 35x15.5 is $204(April 2001 4WPW ad). Next time you may want to check your facts before slamming an off-road icon. The Swampers are not a compromise tire, they are an off-road tire. As to clogging, I've seen Boggers clogged as well, so no tire is immune.

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