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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-12-2001, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
 
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Need winching backwards ideas.

Wondering is anyone has figured out a way to use a winch on the front of their Jeep to winch themselves in reverse?
I was thinking about a frame mounted pulley that would allow the cable to pass low in the front and go under the axles. Problems would be severe lack of ground clearance. How about a roller welded to the axle in which the cable would ride on?
Any other ideas?
For those who are going to ask how do you get the cable to the back of the Jeep when your underwater... you put it there before you enter.

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

well i know of one guy who welded up some channel steel.. or angle iron.. something like that.. he put the pieces stragtetically located under the jeep for the cable to ride in.. seemed to work alright the one time i seen hime use it.. and i have just ran the winch under this chevy's axles.. back up over the axle in the rear.. and hooked it to his front axle.. he broke his frame behind the front spring mount.. so i did it that to squeeze it together.. while i winched him far enough for a flat bed to get to him..

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I've tried this, just to see if it would work. Strapped a couple logs under the jeep, ran the cable over them. It worked when I tried it, I had to see if it would work because I read it in a 4 by mag years ago. BTW, the one time I could have used this technique I was buried to the frame in quicksand and wasn't about to try it, I spun the Jeep instead, foot by foot.

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

I have thought about this at great length, but to use the winch in the rear (mounted in the bed) or the front. In searching and researching (I always try to learn as much as I can, then if I don't find anything, make the rest up as I go along), I found someone in Scotland that has done this. He mounted the winch on an IBEX (similar to a Land Rover) and had strung the cable underneath to the front. The vehicle is configured a little differently from jeeps, however.

My thoughts are to mount the winch in the bed, and have the snatch block mounted under the tailgate with a pin. Pull the pin and spool it backwards. The front would be held in place by the hook on the roller fairlead, or a post in that location. The cable would be strung under the jeep, along one side of the framerail, inside a piece of pipe as straight as possible. When turns are needed, the cable would ride against a smaller roller fairlead, or maybe a set of enclosed bearings so the line wouldn't chafe. When the winch is needed in the front, just leave the roller fairlead pinned in the back and spool the cable out regularly. You could even run a snatch block in the front if you needed to.

This would require a winch with a fair amount of cable, no doubt, but I have also thought of having coils of extra cable to make up the difference.

This is a little different than what you were asking, but it could be used in the same manner. If you can't "see" it, let me know, and I'll see what I can do about drawing a diagram.


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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

I was thinking similarly, JEEPN, especially the guide tube under the Jeep. I was thinking front mounted winch and when reverse winching is required you'd feed the cable down the tube and out the back. Less complex than yours' but more labor intensive to opperate.

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

Take a look at:

http://4wd.sofcom.com/Foers/Winch.html

A little weld here, a tube there and a pin here and you're got one heck of a system.

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

Those are all great ideas, but no one except for yours truly answered the question when you have a FRONT mounted winch. What I suggested is the only thing I've ever seen suggested on this topic, and its not my idea, its from 20 years of reading 4by mags, and it is a topic rarely addressed.

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So much work. Has everyone forgotten the "Swiss Army Knife" of off-roading? When I get stuck in a place I can't back out of, I hook up my Hi-Lift jack to the rear of my Jeep and "winch" my self out one inch at a time. It's a whole lot cleaner than welding pullies, channels, and tubing!

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

But not as easy as the old couple logs across the frame rails trick. It really does work, try it for yourself.

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Re: Need winching backwards ideas.

I'm still thinking of the rear winch idea. A cheap winch though, wish I could find a 6k winch for mounting ideas.

Here's a thought, with a 2" body lift will there be enough room between the gas tank and body for a small winch? Don't think that there would, but has anyone ever taken a look?




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