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New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

Has anyone tried this? Some people in a club I'm in said that they're stronger than 44s and should bolt right in. Only problem is the front is a passenger side pumpkin. I could just switch to a Dana 300 TC. I'd be getting some more strength out of it. Is this possible? Can I hook a 300 upto an AX15? Is it possible to put Toyota axles under my YJ, or worth it? I thought about doing this since Toyota axles are cheap and easy to find. Thanks!!

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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

I normally am not very active on this forum but since you asked....

pros:
good clearance under the axles (more than a Dana44)
same diameter and spline count of many Dana44 (30 spline)
drop out third member
strong tubes
lots of build up items and lockers
the vast majority of the Toyota axles came with 4.10 gearing (4.30, 4.56, and 4.88 can all be found stock with enough searching)
rear drum brakes are bigger than 11" in the rear (post '85 trucks)

cons:
probably not as cheap to find as a pair of Dana44's
all dimensions are metric
the Birfield joints in the front are not as strong as the front axle u-joints
not as many widths to choose from
smaller ring gear diameter (8" vs. 8.75")


I would not swap in Toyota axles under a Jeep (except maybe under a flatty). The rear axles are very similar in strength but the front Birfields on Toyota axles are a weak link. If you were building up a Samurai, I would say go for it but metric axles under a Jeep.....why?










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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

I was going to answer this question, but Liveaxle summed it up perfect.
All I'll say is I second what he said.[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/wink.gif[/img]


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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

There is an additional PRO on the rear. If you pick one up from a V6 truck, a third member from a land cruise (with the factory toyota electric locker) will bolt in...

There is a jeeper on the 4x4wire.com bbs that runs a toy axle in the rear of his CJ.

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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

I nkow of a guy running them in his Scrambler, with a built 289 (from his drag Mustang), NP435, D300. Good fit, and he'e never hurt them, even with a heavy foot and a TON of hp. It's a fairly common swap up here because of the lift laws. Toy axles are SOA, and to go SOA on a jeep, you need axles that originally came SOA from the factory. Not a lot of width, strong axle, and light weight, good combo in my book.

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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

One thing why toy axles may be considered stronger is becuase many of the toy guys are still running the stock 4 cylinder rice poppper. If you start running a v-8 and huge tires you might run into problems, they are worth a try. I know that a couple places including warn offer barrifield eliminators to fix the problem in the front axle.
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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

Can I switch them to SUA if I want?

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i think this thread will have all the info you would ever need.... http://bbs.off-road.com/wwwthreads//...view=&sb=&vc=1

hehe, have fun!

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hmmmm...Toyota axles under a Jeep....wouldnt that make them "JEEPanese?" hehehe...sorry....its early still..

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Re: New idea for axle swap...Toyota axles...

Damn, Remy, go get some coffee. It would be a "JOY" or maybe a "TEEP". I guess I'll have that coffee too...

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