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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-08-2000, 09:29 PM
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anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

I would like to hear some good and bad experiences with lincoln locking (welding spider and side gears).

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Re: anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

Petersons has a write up in it this month. Man it has SMALL welds on it though.
I wouldn't give one the time of day.(I've blown a couple up before)
A couple of buddies of mine would have nothing else. They love'em! Both of them have trashed theirs (1 twice , the other once, this summer alone) but still wouldn't go any other way.
1 is an AMC 20 the other is a 44.
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Re: anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

I have voiced my opinian aganst spools in the past, and a lincoln locker is even worse. I will say it again, Spools only have one place, that is the dragstrip. Save your $ for a few months, Even a lunchbox locker is better than a Spool (or lincoln locker, same differance). A locker is a differential, a spool is not. Even the best spool advocates can't argue that point, but a spool will have a lot more consistant handleing on the street, they just wherent designed for street driving. I wish the offroad mags would just quit pushing spools, because it is just wrong. I would be honest, if I had a rig that I would trailer to the trails, and it would be solely a trail rig, I would consider a spool in the rear, but not for a rig that see any strret time, been there, done that.

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From a welding standpoint, it's really infeasible to do it yourself. The metals used in the gears and carriers are unknown alloys, heat treated, etc. Making a strong weld on them would require removing the diff/carrier, cleaning it perfectly, and welding using the rod/technique appropriate to join the two parts together, which would require specific metallurgical knowledge...and then re-heat treating the whole thing. It's the same reason why it's infeasible to weld the 2-piece AMC20 axles together. It'd cost more than it's worth. By doing a DIY lincoln locker (or hobie locker, or millocker), you're weakening the parts instead of strengthening them...the previous posters are right, because you're weakening them, a lunchbox locker would be stronger. Moreover, WHEN the weld breaks (not if, but when) you'll ruin everything in the diff housing, because weld shards from hardened metal aren't gonna like bearings or gears.

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I run a Detroit in the rear of my CJ but the front is welded up and I have no complaints. Having the front welded means its only being stressed when in wheel; not like having the rear where every trip to the store is stressing the parts. Mine has been welded for over two years running 33 inch Swappers through Los Coyotes, Sledge Hammer, and other fun places. I pulled the carrier and had Hick 4X4 do the welds; they said it has to be done with nickel rod. I will say that I don't have alot of HP and don't beat on the go juice to get were I want to go and that could be why mine has lived this long.


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Wild CJ5 , great pic.[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img]
You can really tell the angle with the sami in the backgroung (underneath) you.
The kind of hill that demands an underware change if you get out of shape on it.[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif[/img]

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Re: anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

My 84 CJ soa, 35's has the D44 welded up in the back. In most cases It is ok for me but I hate driving it down the road. However, this jeep is only driven to the trail and normally pulled home after breakage.

On the trail I love it.



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Re: anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

Why do you guys hate driving your lincoln locked or spooled rear axle vehicles on road? Is it really that bad? I was thinking about the spool for my jeep when I get the 8.8 rear. I do drive it on road often but it's not my every day driver. I drive my 4 wheeler on road and it's spooled in the rear--of course completely different with size and weight--but the tire gripping/chirping doesn't bother me on it. So wont' the jeep just feel like it's trying to really grip extremely well when going around a corner? That has to be better than the popping/clicking of the lockers. I'm thinking also about when my wife or my cousin borrows it to go around town. Wouldn't a spool be easier for them to drive than a locker???

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Re: anyone have personal experience w/lincoln locker?

Yes, a spool is more consistent on the street then a locker, but don't you think a street driven vehicle need a real differential? I, for one do. How come you really don't see spools on asphalt circle track cars? at least not wide spread, like on dirt track cars. There must be a reason.

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