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post #1 of (permalink) Old 11-30-2000, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

Is there a difference in windshield frames for early CJ5 with a hard top and one with a soft top? My CJ5 has had a soft top all of it life and I just got a steel hard top for it. It fits but up against the windshield it kind looks like it needs a different windshield frame...

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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think CJ-5's ever came from the factory with hardtops. Alot of aftermarket companies made them. The one on my folks' '78 CJ-5 was built by a HVAC company (really is a nice hard top and full hard doors). So I think the answer to your question is "NO", there isn't a different w/s frame, just some hardtops fit better than others. Does your soft top use a windshield channel to attach it to the w/s frame? If so, you may need to remove it for the hardtop to fit all the way down. I hope I helped. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/cool.gif[/img]

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It's a mystery for sure, but this crazy hard top of mine (77 CJ5) is suspected to be a dealer option top from 1977. They were sooo expensive that nobody could afford to buy them. If you can prove me wrong with any friggin' info about this top, please PLEASE do!!!!

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Re: Shouldn\'t be . . and a correction . .

Before '76, steel hardtops were an option from the factory and required removal of the w/s frame soft top strip to seat correctly. The window frames were the same between the hard and soft tops, but after '76, there weren't any hard tops available from the dealer unless the dealer had arranged a contract with a shop to have them custom made. AMC didn't make them for the CJ5. Check that you have the proper rubber strips and that you have a pre '76 top on a pre '76 Jeep. It should look sorta like a Postal Jeep.

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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

Mac, if you look in the parts books there are three different windshields listed for the cj- 5. 1955 -1968,1969-1975, and 1976-1983. I'm not positive but I think the only difference between the first two is the location of the wipers and wiper motors ,but in the later Cj there is a difference in the taper from bottom to top. The other possibility is that top might be for a flatfender. I have seen some aluminum hardtops from military flatfenders so I'm sure there might be some older aftermarket tops floating around for the flatfenders.
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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

Well I know that the top came off of a 67 CJ5, So I would assume that it would fit my pre 75 CJ5, Which in theory it should. I also have removed the soft top strip at the top of the windshield to get it to fit, (well it was toasted anyway) So it does kinda fit. The only thing I am having trouble with it the back end. I cant get it to sit down on the jeep. It is kinda "piviting" in the middle of the top and cant get it to sit down. I have even got on top and jumped on it and it wont move.

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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

Here's a good guess ...
Your rear body mounts are probably shot to hell and the whole tail section of your old 5 has probably drooped.
My son's ole '74 CJ-5 was this way .. it's body had settled and even shifted foreward due to body mount rot.
If so, you'll need to rebuild the mount brackets, mount new pucks, and maybe even bounce it over some really rough roads with some heavy cargo at the 'peak' to get the tail to push back up to straight.


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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

The top hasn't been twisted or anything that would keep it from sitting flush has it? I had a 7 once that had a real easy roll on to its side in a ditch and didn't even appear to have any noticeable damage but there was just enough twist in the tub that the hard top would sit down to one side or the other but not flush against the back. sorry I can't be much help.
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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

I never really thought about the tub sagging. I do know that my rear body mounts are ok. I think the problem is in the middle. I think those ones are shot. What I will probibly do is jack the body up and see if it makes a difference. If is does I guess I am rebuilding body mounts!

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Re: Is there really a difference in Windshield frames?

I had a similar problem with the scrambler. I took the top and doors off, left them in the field (it was mid November), and went wheeling. Beat on it pretty hard (trying to get the SR-4 to grenade), and when I came back at the end of the day, the top and doors didn't fit anymore. I had to hold the doors on with a bungee strap for the ride home, wouldn't even remotely line up. Needless to say, I did tweak the body a little, but then I didn't have much holding the body to the frame, mounts were shot. Body didn't look like it was out though, so I'd definitely look closer at it.

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