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Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

I am a testament to the sloppy prep/quick careless prep to get a jeep going. I sanded down the rust on my floorboards, patched some holes with fiberglass, then painted it all with rust converter. And on top of it i painted on the rubberized coating. Oh yeah my rust problem is solved i thought. NOPE [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
I found out the hard way about the rust menace always lurkd in the dark. i went wheeling and had a great time a few weeks back. When i got home i noticed the left side was sagging. This has happened before. The channel braces that jeep used, and put wood in, rotted and doesn't offer support causeing the sag. Well I knew i had to replace the channels. I took out the carpet in my jeep to access the top of my tranny to remove it, and i noticed that the body mount under the drivers feet had completely broken and entered the jeep. The lavaliner that i used hid the rust really well, no sign of any problems, until i peeled it away and saw the rust monster. I call ed th ecops about the rust monster but they said they could not do anything about it. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img][img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]
Well i am planning on taking the tub off, after i rebuild my transfercase, and weld in new rockers, new floor boards, and new channels. I think i am going to use really thick gauge steel for the floorboards, and square tube for the support channel. I learned my lesson, i have no patience, i do sloppy prep work. It will problably happen again for me, since i really hate body work.
But my message is:
YOU CANNOT HIDE FROM THE RUST MONSTER. RUBBERIZED COATING ONLY LETS HIM FESTER INTO A STRONGER BEAST!

well off to plan my tub rebuild.

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

Dan,

Glad you said something - I was throwing around the Hurculiner idea myself. Sounds like a real chore, what you've got planned - please see my post on baffling JEEP bills!

P.S. - is there any good wheeling down your way? I'm up in Tampa.

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

I actually like the rubber lining, and i will do it again when i redo my jeep. This time i will try to do it the right way.

There are alot of places to wheel down here in fort myers, Naples. Right now it is mud, mud, and some more mud. We recent came back from a campout in Ocala and had alot of fun up there. Here is our website. Give a yell if you come down this way and we can take you places to wheel.
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Desert/2529/

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

Maybe I should start a new post for this ...but has anyone checked out those Aluminum bodies advertised in the 4 X magazines,I think I would like that better than glass or steel .I bet they cost some big time bucks though.

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

Question- If you start out with no rust on the tub and then coat it with one of the liners, is there a problem with the liner cracking and holding water in, starting a new rust pocket?

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

I looked at the website for those aluminum tubs, but they didn't have the early CJ5 style. I would love to have an aluminum body, but i bet the price would be high. I didn't see a price on the web site.

I didn't have a problem with the rubber coating cracking. It was all poor prep on my part. Only thing i worry about is that i pealed the coating off in a big sheet, this made it seem like it didn't adhere that well. But i will do it again.

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

Dan , I just finished putting in new supports in the tub as well as floors and beefed up the traverse section etc . If yours came through the floor they must have been in HORRIBLE shape prior to you doing the lavaliner. I was going to do the same as you but I guess the smart part of my brain woke up . I put the tub in the front yard and have been replacing everything . Its a hassle and I HATE bodywork too . I figure mine lasted 20 years the way the factory did it so with the panels I MADE and shaped ( NOT J.C Whitney or Omix-Oda(spelling?) it should outlast me . My .02

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

One crucial mistake that i didn't think of, since i took the tub off, when i was vey green with jeeps. The support channels had the wood in them and i left the wood in there and cut some bad sections out. So the floors didn't have really any support and the rust inside the channels was there. The outsidelooks ok when when i sanded, but the monster lay hidden deep inside. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/frown.gif[/img]

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

Depending on the liner you use, mostly no. Herculiner which is what I used on my 99 TJ is flexable and will not crack. If it does get cut or removed somehow, you just touch it up.

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Re: Beware of the rubberized liner in Jeeps!!

You hit it on the nose, Prep work is what makes or breaks the job. From preping my truck to be painted 25 yrs ago, I remember being told by the painter that any rust left on the metal will actually accelerate new rust growth. THAT was GREATLY ACCELERATE. To bad there are all those little nooks and crannies on a body that make complete removal almost impossible.

Good luck on the new project.


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