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post #1 of (permalink) Old 09-06-2000, 02:50 PM
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I SCREWED UP!!!!

OK Heres The Story (short version)

I had a set of Scout Axles i got for next to nothing so i wanted to use
them. I talked with a lot of folks online on how to get them under a CJ
with a SOA. Most of the people told me to shortened the LONG side EXACTLY
3" and then it would bolt right in. This WOULD have worked but i forgot to
tell everyone I talked to that i was using YJ springs and they give a total
of 1" more width (makes sense now).

I had the housing cut exactly 3" and had 6 degrees of caster added. All of
this was done by advice and totally the wrong thing to do. This was all
done because i was trying to rush it together to wheel before winter.

I went to get the ubolts made today at lunch and we realized that the
springs would not fit because the hole in the housing and so forth and
nothing will line up and the axle would be offset from center about 3/4" of
installed as is. Anyone family with the Dana44 housing know the hole i am
talking about (u bolt hole).

I just paid to have the gears and Detroit installed and now i have to redo
all of this all over again.

Lesson Learned: MAKE TRIPLE SURE on your measurements and Advice.

I will check these measurements this weekend in CT. and then I am going to
dissemable the axle and get it chopped another 1" if everything looks as if
everything will fit perfectly.

Thanks For All Your Help Guys



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CJ7, T18, Dana20, Scout 44's F&R, Detroits F&R, 4:56 Gears, SOA, Hi-Steering, York, etc...
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post #2 of (permalink) Old 09-06-2000, 02:56 PM
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Re: I SCREWED UP!!!!

if you are spring under then a wagoneer housing has the perch cast into the housing for a 2 1/2" spring. they are aprox. the same width as a scout axle.

brian wilson
80 cj5 "high 5"
stretched to 100" wb
351w/np435/d300/d44/d60/detroits/4.56/35ss/bdlocks
post #3 of (permalink) Old 09-06-2000, 02:59 PM
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Re: I SCREWED UP!!!!

i am spring over (or trying to be) with a Scout Front 44 and YJ springs

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post #4 of (permalink) Old 09-06-2000, 03:08 PM
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Re: I SCREWED UP!!!!

don't worry it can be done. like i said i have done it to two now. you will have to grind into the housing where it is built up for the inside u-bolt to fit. keep grinding it until you can get th spring perch in the desired location. you will also need to grind both sides to get the u-bolts ro ride correctly. just study it and you'll figure it out. i jus winged it and everything worked out perfectly.

brian wilson
80 cj5 "high 5"
stretched to 100" wb
351w/np435/d300/d44/d60/detroits/4.56/35ss/bdlocks
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Re: I SCREWED UP!!!!

Im having to grind alot on my FSJ dana 44 front housing to go SOA on my 77CJ5 with rear CJ springs ( 2.5 inches wide)

one custom square Ubolt, and the other is an offthe shelf Motor Mite part.

Ill try and get some pictures if you think it might help.

I outboarded my springs so I was able to use the factory location ( diff spring perch) as a measurent for my other side, and just placed the springs so that the axle is centered.

the thing giving me the most troublke is trying to accurratly measure to have the front axle perfectly perpendicular to the frame.

How close is good enough?

1/32 of an inch?

i know most front end alignments get 3/32 of an inch toe in.

any suggestions?


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