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post #1 of (permalink) Old 12-20-1999, 01:42 AM Thread Starter
 
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Anti-Theft in Miami

I was just reading the anti theft postings, and I have a story...
In May of '96, I was on my way back to the mid west from the Florida Keys. In Miami a front brake caliper locked up, and needed attention in short order. I rented a motel room, and went to the auto parts store. I picked up everything I needed except for one bearing race, and ordered it. It was due first thing the next morning.
I got my tools out, and replaced everything but the race, and got ready for it. While I was cleaning up my tools shortly after dark, a thin black man with a bad complexion and dirty cloths stuck a pistol in my right kidney from behind, and told me he was going to kill me if I didn't give him the keys.
I used a hand full of wrenches to deflect the pistol, and cracked him in the forehead with a dead blow hammer, leaving a depressed skull fracture nearly two inches in diameter, and about an inch and a half deep.

I was detained by the Miami police for a week while they waited to see if the 24 year old crack head-car jacker with over 140 arrests was going to die or not.
He didn't, but he will never color inside the lines again, really enjoys soup through a straw, and can't figure out where his toes go when his shoes are on.

I, on the other hand, just had the last law suit dismissed a month ago, and I have incurred over $270,000.00 in legal fees, been arrested and released twice, had my jeep and trailer with a Harley and an enduro stolen while in jail in Miami, and lost a boat load of business while trying to get over the legal problems.
I recommend avoiding Miami in general, and South Miami Heights (just off the Florida turnpike) in particular.

I don't spend a nickel in Dade County (Miami), and I never will.
I still go to the Keys every year, (Monroe County) and that crap just doesn't happen there.

Next time my anti-theft device will be a 9MM and a shovel.




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It is a shame to see that our legal system does not protect the victim but protects the criminal. It makes me think. What will happen to me if I fought and badly injured a criminal who wanted to rob and kill me?

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HOW DARE A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN DEFEND THEMSELVES... that's what our legal system is coming to. Protect the guilty, because they'll just get out of jail and commit another crime, thanks to so many wonderful judges/lawsuits.

Punish the innocent, we're the only ones that will actually go anywhere without a fight.

I guess the bright note is that when the world ends on 1/1/00, you won't have to pay those legal fees! [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]



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post #4 of (permalink) Old 12-20-1999, 01:23 PM
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I have spent many years in South Fl and I agree with you. Never liked going to Miami and avoided it as much as was possible. Moved as far as you can go and still stay in FL. A fraction of the population and the trouble. The Keys are another story. The are beautiful. North Fl. is also a day shorter to any good trail rides than South Fl.

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It really is a shame that we can't live in this country without having to worry about who is going to rob or steal from us. I personally, believe in self protection. However, in your case I can't help but wonder if there is not more to the story. I am in law enforcement...and I have learned that to every story there are two sides.....and then what really happened.

Given the same situation, I would have done the same thing. But based on what you told us, I find it hard to believe that you spent a week in jail...unless there is more to it than what your are telling...like maybe, once you had the gun away from him...and it was no longer a threat, you placed the hammer against his head...that changes the picture somewhat....and I bet there were witnesses. Its easy for the anger to take control and we end up doing more than we should.

As for all the legal troubles...blame most of that on the lawyers....An interesting statistic...California has 75,000 sworn peace officers...and 135,000 Bar certified lawyers.

I have been sued twice over totally false charges...and both times the dept settled out of court because it was cheaper than paying the lawyers....basically, the lawyers have a legal version of blackmail..."give me money or I take you to court".....about the only way we are going to solve the problem is to have a law that allows us to go after the lawyer and client who trump up false claims.....

I hope no one has to go through what you did....

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John, you must know my neighbor Scott... he's a police-o, and has been sued twice.... same deal. Now he gets to sit behind a desk. [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

While there are two sides to every story, and both sides always tell some of the truth, I believe that the there is too much emphasis on criminals rights, and not my rights (or yours, for that matter).

I must work to upgrade the Jeep, eat, etc. They (criminals) just wait for me to complete my upgrades, then steal my possessions.

Criminals don't work... Now, if they just put that much effort into being upstanding citizens... well...

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I believe in giving criminals a second chance, or even a third chance depending on what the crime is (for regular homicide not out of self defense, I'd say just fry 'em, if there was no self defense aspect), but 140 second chances is ridiculous. That guy should have been locked away for life... I hate the legal system as it is getting. More and more compassionate for the criminal, and less and less for the victim... "But he was deprived as a child..." So? A lot of rich people were deprived as children too, but instead of getting things the illegal way, they worked their a$$es off and made their money. And with the law getting softer and softer on criminals, less people will obey the law. With the plushness of some prisons (I got to take a tour of a new one in Freeland, MI when they opened it) That one I toured, gave them all the comforts of home, and they even get cable TV?! I know quite a few honest law abiding people who can't even afford that luxury, but we give it away to the criminals??? Well I guess I'll stop now, before the Black helicopters come to take me away... [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

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Too late, Tim. We're marked for absorbtion into the socialist society that is America, and we will be taken by the black helis in the near future.

If people really want "free" stuff that bad, go check out Russia for a few years. Talk about crime! Its 99% Rusky mob there... Even Canada... I believe that America needs a safety net, and give my time and money freely to causes I warrant are deserving. I do not apprciate government imposed "Self-help" policies...

Speaking of... when a canadian or brit needs quality healthcare, why do they have to come to America? Because Socialized anything doesn't work.

Criminals should be given 3 seeds, a book, and a hose. Tell 'em to make their own food. See what it's like to work... AAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH... I'll bet they'd learn the work ethic (as I post from work...) [img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif[/img]I'm getting on a rant here...

Back to the Landuse board...



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[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]<font color=red>TeamRush-Got to wonder if you would of been better off if you had killed him???[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif[/img]<font color=blue>That way it would have just been self defence maybe??[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/blush.gif[/img]

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I'm from Canada and are problems are not nearly as deep when it comes to crimes but it is definately heading that way.
Research has showed that the death penalty for murder is not a deterrent, all I know is that you will not have any repeat offenders and that is good enough for me

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