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post #1 of (permalink) Old 05-17-2017, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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Thinking about down sizing..

I have have a set of international 44's that I've been thinking about throwing under the scrambler. Ever since I put the full size axles under it, pretty much just sits there. I have a set of stock yj springs and the 44's so thinking why not, maybe it will get drove more. Figure I will keep it soa and maybe just some good ole 35's on it. What do you guys think?
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I've ALWAYS thought that full-size axles were too big for our kind of country. Maybe they make some sense on the Utah slick rock trails, but we have to get between trees.

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At the time we were going over to Disney a lot and bigger was better but I had more fun on the trails when it was smaller and drove it a lot more. Thinking I might go ahead and start rebuilding the 44's and slap them under when I get them done. Been awhile but if memories are correct, I can use my current high steer knuckles as long as I use the full size outer shaft?
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Think the International had five bolt spindles and GM were six bolt.
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If they're Scout axles they have zero caster, which can cause a problem. My experience with truck size 44s is that the outer stuff is interchangeable for the most part. Unless there's something unusual about your International front you should be able to take everything off your full size front axle and put it onto the shorter one. In the back the backing plates should be all you need to swap, if the lug pattern is correct for your wheels.

When I built my front I narrowed a 44 from a '79 Jeep Cherokee - 2-door version of a full-size Wagoneer - but didn't like the outers, so I got an axle from a '84 Dodge Ramcharger - Mopar's version of a FS Blazer - and used everything from the ball joints out. I had to modify the arms on the knuckles and shorten the shafts, but it went together nicely and almost looks factory, except for the tie-rod. There are pictures on my website.

And of course you know about my 44 rear. I had to modify the backing plates to retain the stock AMC20 parking brake, but that was no big deal. I have pictures of that but they're not on my website.

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Yep I forgot about the hubs and bolt pattern. Not too worried about the caster problem. I've done that before on my brother in-laws Land cruiser when we sprung it over years ago. I have a alignment rack at the shop so I figured I would put it on the rack and set the caster then weld the c knuckles in place. These 44's are out of a 73 international truck so I thought I would throw them under and run them through the cycle and see where the caster sits before I change anything.
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MMMmmmm! Alignment rack.

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Yep,I have one
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Has anyone here ever looked into swapping a gm 4.2 i6 into a CJ. Was thinking about doing an LS swap in the scrambler when I do the axles but saw the Supra guys are using the i6 out of a trail Blazer because they have forged internals and make good power. I know a guy that has one that got t-boned and he needs two more tires for his current driver and said he would trade me. Runs and drives so thinking it might be a good deal. I already have the gm trans so some mounts and wiring pretty much.
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Sounds like an interesting swap. I've never heard of it being done, but that doesn't mean much.

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