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post #1 of (permalink) Old 06-15-2000, 09:27 AM Thread Starter
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What Gives With U-Joints?

I took some folks advice and in the process of installing new gears, looked at installing new front driveshaft U-joints. The Recommendation is to use NAPA Super Strenth joints (or some such animal). When I went to my local NAPA store, they recommended I go with Spicer joints, they claim they are stronger. They also claim the NAPA Super Strength joint is the same cheap joint that all the other discount parts houses use, just under a different name. He suggested he could sell me either joint, but highly recommended the Spicer.

I Would like to hear your comments on this.

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

I had not heard that about the Super Joint, but the Spicers are definitely stronger. After several Super Joints, I changed to Spicer and have had one outlast the last three Super Joints. So what if they're lifetime guaranteed, if you have to replace them all the time it's not with it.

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Hello fellow Montanan! Hows the weather in your neck of the woods? Big Sky area eh..I havent been there since my college days, did alot of skiing at Big Sky. Really remember the Oly Days and sunburn on areas of my body that dont normally see the sun!! Did some elk hunting around Big Sky also.

As far as the Spicer U-joints Id take their word for it. I believe Spicer is a good brand from what I know..

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/smile.gif[/img] When I ran a few trucks, it was always a comfort to know we had Spicer u-joints when the throttle was down hard and the boxes were in the lower gears. We also used Spicer joints exclusively for the drivelines from the stationary engines to the gear drives on the big pumps we installed......sometimes well over 300 HP.....that's DIESEL horsepower at 1800, not a Mitsubishi Twin-Turbo at sixty-zillion RPM[img]/wwwthreads_images/icons/crazy.gif[/img]

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I'd personally say that they are strong enough to spread the ears on a Warn axle, cause I did it!!! In my experience with them though, I think that the brute strength ones from auto zone are just as worthy and half the price.But thats just my dealins!!

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

ok people.. a u-joint is a u-joint.. spicer is not any stronger than napa, than brute force or any other el cheapo joint.. the only way to get them stronger is.. make them bigger.. (in size) or out of stronger metal.. which case you will see that in the price.. warn did a test on this.. and i also saw a test done by one of the driveline companies.. tom woods or someone that does driveshafts.. and they all say the same thing..
my opion.. go with brute force.. you dont grease them.. and they come with a lifetime warranty.. between elusive and i we have taken back some 8 of them.. no questions.. nada.. here you go.. brand new.. so you only have to buy one or two spares.. once..

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Yeah, what he said!! I just didnt want to go there because I knew I'd get trashed.I'm with jeepgod,I just went there yesterday and picked up a new warrenteed one myself.

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

Appreciate your comments on Brute Force joints, However, There isn't an Auto Zone within 250 miles of me. So, I guess I will stick with the supperior metalurgy of the Spicer and drive away. Thanks for all the input.

BTW, My mistake, the U-joints I meant to ask about are the axle U-joints, @ the spindle. (Don't know if that makes any difference for opinions.)

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

Let me give my (Arghh) unfortunately, experienced opinion. I break all brands of U joints with equal frequency, the Spicers have not held up any better than the generic Kragen, Pep Boys, or Auto Zones. I like spicer parts, thier yoke assemblies for CV joints are awsome, but as was already stated a U joint is a U joint, go bigger to go stronger. I have also noticed no difference in strength between greasable and non greasable, Im affraid I have little experience in longevity between the two, but they both hold up well to the elements for the couple of weeks or so between structural failures. The good thing though from my experience anyway is that the spicer U joints are not close to strong enough to break the Warn High Strength axle yokes, the Spicer drive shaft yokes, or the Ford 8.8 pinion yoke.They will however destroy a D35 pinion yoke every single time, but so will any other brand(in fact I began to suspect that I was actually breaking the yokes and they were in turn destroying the Joints).

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Re: What Gives With U-Joints?

After my last NAPA standard u-joint lasted only 12K miles I decided to try the Spicer. The bearing cap (and the rollers inside) is longer, and the cap design itself is different, though it's dimensionally the same where it matters. The main difference was in the location of the zerk fitting, on the Spicer it's in one of the caps (and it's a tiny one that uses a needle adapter) wheras on the others it's the standard one in the spider. We'll see how it lasts.

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