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post #1 of (permalink) Old 06-12-2000, 04:20 PM
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Troubles on the Way to Camping

So i went to the Ocala National Forest this weekend and on the way to ocala from my friends house i noticed an abnormal amount of smoke. Now, the jeep was smoking whenever i would really get on it, and i have never had smoke like this before. I also notice about 20 miles down the road much more smoke all the time and a huge lack in horsepower. Then about 4 hours later of setting up camp i checked the radiator for oil and it was low. So i am guessing when i change my oil i am going to find all of that dissapearing radiator fluid.I have many questions if you guys would mind maybe answering a few for me. Is it the head gasket? If not what the heak is it? If yes if i buy new heads will i have to retune my holley 600 like i have been told i will? And will i notice a huge difference in HP's? And can i take this job on myself? What do you smart guys think? Thanks a lot for your help. By the way it is a 304, thought that might be of good use for you to know.


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post #2 of (permalink) Old 06-12-2000, 04:41 PM
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Re: Troubles on the Way to Camping

Welcome to the board and sorry about the mishap.

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Then about 4 hours later of setting up camp i checked the radiator for oil and it was low.

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Radiator low on oil? Did you add some when you realized it was low?

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What color smoke was it? My guess is bright white. White means you're burning water, blue means burning oil, and black means a rich fuel mixture. If you started losing power, it's a bad thing. The first thing you should do is pull your plugs, and whatever you do, don't drive it. Look at the plugs to determine where the leak is, it might just be a bad head gasket, they go all the time. Of course, if you drove it for a long time (ie: 4 hours), you might have cracked the head by then. You can check the base for water simply by pulling the oil dipstick, if it comes out looking like brown milk chocolate, it's not a good thing, means water in the base. It should be golden brown when new and jet black when used. If there are any white streaks in it (after it's been sitting), it's also water. Your base may not necessarily have any water in it, since you noticed it in the smoke I don't think you'll find much, if any. I'm also willing to bet, since you didn't notice it before, it just happened, so when fixed, you should regain your original horsepower back. As to doing it yourself, I'm not sure, have you done anything similar with an engine before? I'd tackle it, but then I've seen a ton of them done. Now if it were on my '95 Trooper (which it happened on BTW), not on your life, too much to mess up. It's relatively simple (as compared to understanding the working of the Quadratrac system), but I'd have someone else standing by to give you a hand if this is your first time, they'll show you what to look for.

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Re: Troubles on the Way to Camping

I meant i checked the radiator to see if there was oil mixed in with the fluid. Thanks for the help, i will check those things and let you know.

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Re: Troubles on the Way to Camping

Check the oil at the dip stick. Does it look normal or milky with maybe some bubbles?

Knowing this would help identify the problem.
Head gaskets aren't too hard on 304's. I just helped a friend change both of his about 2 months ago. Not a big deal--it only took a full day if you count breakfast at Waffle House, grilling out for lunch and Waffle House for dinner.. We also changed the exaust manifold gaskets while we were at it. If you do this make sure to get fel-pro gaskets. The fel-pro gaskets didn't need to be retorqued.

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Re: Troubles on the Way to Camping

i have headers are these going to be a huge pain to get off. the dip stick looks like new oil i do no think it is soupy, is there any other way to tell what the exact problem is.

Thanks for your help/

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