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What's the secret to installing ball studs?

My '78 CJ5 is finally coming out of the moth balls.... thankfully. But the list of repairs is pretty long. It's been sitting. Not for years, but long enough that I'm not familiar with all it's creaks and groans.

Tonight I discovered that the ball stud on the driver's side needs replacing. This is something that I've replaced in the past. So I'm not unfamiliar with the process. But I've also learned to ask about things that I'm not edjumacated about. So here it is.......

What are the technical difficulties that a shade tree mechanic is going to run into when installing the ball studs? What part of the installation is the MOST important to get right?

Any information and advice is appreciated....... Thanks.
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"Ball stud"?

- Ball Joints are basically pivot points, allowing the outer knuckles to turn (steer)... Plop down your CC# at local parts house for their rental tool made to do this

-TRE (Tie-rod ends) attach the draglink to the pitman arm & steering arm (knuckle) and the the tie-rod to both/right steering arms... Buy a "pickle fork" (check the width between the forks you need) used to separate the tapered stud from the pitman/knuckle and turn them out of the links

So, which do you want to replace?

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"Ball stud"?
Yeah..... I've always called them ball joints too. But my Haynes manual called them ball studs. So I was trying to use the "proper" terminology. Call 'em what you want.....

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So, which do you want to replace?[/B]
The upper driver's side is the one that caught my eye. It obviously needs replacing. But I always heard you replace one, you replace them all. Is that good advice, or can I get away with just replacing the one? Maybe just the drivers side joints (upper and lower)??
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But I always heard you replace one, you replace them all. Is that good advice, or can I get away with just replacing the one? Maybe just the drivers side joints (upper and lower)??

Stripping the axle (brakes, hub, shaft) a second time to do the other side? I'm lazy & cheap, but not lazy/cheap enough to only do a single side... You?

The rental balljoint press (even quicker with an impact) will make it (both sides) doable in 4-5 hours counting breaks...

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When I did mine, the guy I bought ‘em from pressed the old ones out and the new ones in, no extra charge. There wasn’t even a recession going on then. Don’t hurt to ask.

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'Ball Studs' is correct, but we'll accept 'Ball Joints' too.

I let my press go with the shop,
So now I 'Borrow/Rent' the kit from the auto parts places.
Cheap and effective!

Here are the all time coolest top ball studs I've found so far!
Greaseable from OUTSIDE!
You don't have to pull the axle and screw in/out the Zerk!

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'Ball Studs' is correct, but we'll accept 'Ball Joints' too.

I let my press go with the shop,
So now I 'Borrow/Rent' the kit from the auto parts places.
Cheap and effective!

Here are the all time coolest top ball studs I've found so far!
Greaseable from OUTSIDE!
You don't have to pull the axle and screw in/out the Zerk!

Wonder where you got that Idea??


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Wonder where you got that Idea??

Dale
From MOOG is where I got the 'Idea',
The idea of extending the base and putting the grease Zerk in the side hadn't occurred to me until I saw it from Moog...
I was still battling the plug in the bottom and having to take the axles out to get to it until I saw these!



Part number shown on the box is for Dana 30 steering knuckles for CJ's, and I think it works in all AMC years...

I picked it up as a recommendation from another Jeeper on a different forum...
Can't remember exactly who recommended them the first time...
I think John Strenk or SnowTow recommended it over on JU, and it was right on time for me at the time!

They work GREAT, work with my Caster correction split ring replacements, and have held up REALLY WELL...
And I've beat the crap out of them!

Can't recommend them enough!
AND,
If you decide to upgrade the front axle, I've been able to find them in all sizes for Scout, FSJ and Chevy knuckles without problems!
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OK, but why not do a search on this forum?



Just click on the picture please.

Old thread from 2006 with the Moog part numbers for a CJ D30.

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And where is the best place to get one of these MOOG joints? I'm tying to get a price.


..... by the way..... what is the deal with the camber adjustment sleeve? Is there any trick to installing that? I know I have the "wrench" to install it. But I doubt I did anything other than screwing it in as tight as I could, and calling it "done". There has to be something I'm over looking, or not doing correctly.
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