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post #1 of (permalink) Old 03-17-2008, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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How much difference does the front locker make?

Im asking this because for a long time ive went without locking the front of my rig because of the weak front dana 30 axle. I went jeeping this weekend with two friends, each with tj's but with a little better lifts and locked all the way around, and everywhere we went they had little trouble making it through the obstacles where my jeep wouldnt even come close to making it over. Now I would blame it on driving skills because god knows that im not the best driver by far, but one of the guys this is only his second trip out having never owned a jeep in his life and the other guy was drunk. I hope my driving skills are better than that. The obstacles that I had problems with they werent just making it over a little easier than I, but they appeared to have no trouble at all. The drunk guy has a far better lift than I so it was understandable in his case, but the other TJ has a comparable lift, tires, etc. The only difference was his front locker.

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It will make a considerable difference.

Right now you have an open diff. which lets the power go to the wheel with the LEAST traction.

A locker will transfer power equally to both wheels, effectively "locking" them together.

The downside of the locker will be more difficulty turning and it can cause plowing in mudding or snowy conditions, but I prefer the traction over those.


All of that being said you are learning to drive the right way. You can see what your limitations are and learn to drive better to help overcome them.


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I know that when I added the rear locker it made a conciderable difference. In fact it made me able to go places in 2wd that I had a rough time taking in 4wd before adding it. I just wasnt sure that the difference in adding the front would be the same.

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I thought it made a bunch of diffrence in my jeep. I would do it again although without the rear locker it gets a bit squirlly in the rear when pulling a slick hill.

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The other guy's lift isn't making a difference unless you are scraping parts and getting stuck high centered.

If you have one rear wheel up in the air, the other rear wheel on a slick wet rock, one front wheel in mud, and the other front wheel on a rock with good traction, then the front locker will make the difference between driving out of there or getting your shoes all muddy while you try to figure out how you'll get home.

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Yea...it makes a difference. It really changes how you drive on the trails....you get to take things are lot slower because you don't have to 'hammer' it to get over.

Add a 4:1 xfer case and it gets real fun....

Well worth the money.

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Well, as far as the 4:1 goes, I have an auto tranny so I have a bit of a cheater there. No problems as far as gearing. I wish I could travel down hill a little slower without breaking some times but going upward you cant beat it. IM going to be changing gears as soon as I get the money to upgrade the front. I was going to put a high pinion dana 30 in there but I figured if I do it im just going to do it right and throw a dana 60 in. By the time I get the gears, locker, and other mods done to the high pinion I will wish that I had just saved that money and put it in to the 60 anyway. For now though, im thinking about just putting a lockright in to the front and be nice to it until it just cant take anymore and breaks on me. That was the other thing that I noticed about the trails we were on. They were making it easily while i was having to beat my rig just to try to keep up. Then my winch went out on me.... ug...

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ya.. it makes half the difference.. lol.. as for braking.. get a line lock.. and lock out the front brakes.. and just use the rear brakes.. for going down.. i will be doing this soon.. aaron has this on his.. and works awesome..

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If you are going with the 60, and going to spend the $$ get a ARB, OX, or a T-Locker, makes turning much, much better when you unlock, not to mention snow.

Oh, and don't go wheeling with drunks, they can get dangerous, real fast

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Since nobody else mentioned it...

2 lockers will also get you into a whole new world of places/situations/predicaments, where open diffs would have stopped your forward progress miles ago... long before teetering on the brink of rolling, massive body damage, and rollcage testing!

You've been warned!

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