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post #1 of (permalink) Old 02-14-2008, 12:05 AM Thread Starter
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Dana 35c weak?

What makes the Dana 35c such a weak rear end?

Can I upgrade the internals to 4.56 gear ratio and stick with the D35c?

If I can't find a Dana 44, what would be the next best choice for the front?

Thanks for everyone's advice!

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Another piece of useful information is that I will not be rock crawling...I plan on doing a lot of mudding? I might climb over some small stuff but not too much of that...just driving around, drinking, and hitting a few mud holes. What gear ratio am I looking for? I will be running higher than 1200 rpm's. Thanks for the help.

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The D35 is for the rear....the typical stock front diff is a D30.

The issue is not the internals....they (axles, housing, etc) just happen to be smaller lighter axles...ok for street driving...but when you putting on large tires and taking it off road....they won't cut it for long.

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just driving around, drinking, and hitting a few mud holes
You were doing fine until this....if you just want a mall crawler...fine....
But drinking on the trails? NO NO #1.

If you plan on drinking and driving that jeep (or any other vehicle) on the trail then don't expect a blessing from us. I like my beer too....but only after I'm done for the day.

To be honest, it's kids like you that give the sport a bad rap.

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What makes the Dana 35c such a weak rear end?
The same things that make a D60 or 14bolt strong!

-R&P size
-axle tube dia. & wall thickness
-axle shaft dia.

D35 come up way short on all these counts

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No harm meant/ idiots not allowed

Not to offend anyone, but I was unaware that this was even considered a sport. When I say riding around, drinking, hitting a few mud holes...this all came about because I have a Rhino 660 and several other ATVs that the makers just don't make good enough to suit "kids" like us. I have bought the best of the best and the strongest, and I've got videos to prove that they break even when not in a bind. As for as the drinking goes, this is not going to be treated as a vehicle. It is going to be treated as an oversized ATV for offroad use mainly. Drinking a few beer (offroad) and driving on my back 40 acres is not the same as driving drunk. I think we all know the difference between acting stupid and having a good time. Besides, I don't even know where any Jeep trails are where I live. It's like a recreational/atv-riding/mud nationals kind of thing (which is a very public event where drinking and operating ATVs is allowed). There were 15000 bikes there last year, and yes, like always, there were a few idiots. Didn't mean to offend anyone, but I don't want your so called blessings...I kind of need them.

As for the front Dana 44, is there anything I can substitute?

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Well, you can put a Dana 60 in front, or a Rockwell, but those are REALLY big, heavy and expensive chunks. There are plenty of D44 fronts out there, they're cheap - I got a couple for $75 each - and plenty strong for what you're doing.

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Bassfrad.... ?

What is up with the jeep in your sig? Sounds like a pretty well put together rig, and there is no mention of a dana 35?
If you can't find a Dana 44 for the front of your Jeep... keep looking. Look under any full size jeep in any junkyard and you will find a D44. Some years are better than others.

I enjoy a cold beer just as much as anyone else... actually I enjoy them very much... I even enjoy them when they are not cold... room temp even...

However I know full well that after any of them, warm cold or otherwise my but does not belong in my jeep. I have far too many hours, and far too much work in my rig to risk damage because I am acting $tuipd. wrose than damage to my rig is the risk of damage to myself, or anyone else. Why risk it. Beers (what ever temp) are best enjoyed after rig time, around the campfire, or BBQ.
Do us all a favor, if you are going to drink and operate your rig... stay away from the public....


STAY AWAY FROM ME...

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Any jeep

Do you mean Cherokee when you say fullsize jeep. and what would be the best year models to look for.

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Older Cherokee's....do a web search on D44 Flat Top and you will find some good info....I would start here.

This is the 77 Cherokee that I pulled my flat top D44 out of.....The ol' girl looks like she is Mator's girlfriend...
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