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post #1 of (permalink) Old 11-05-2007, 08:15 PM Thread Starter
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OT Anyone know anything about the transmission in a ford 4000 tractor?

I am in a position to get a running 4000 with a loader but it won't move due to an unknown tranny issue. I have heard they are known for this and it is a cluch replacement I believe that fixes it. I know the owner said he was quoted 3000 to repair it but if the tractor has to be seperated for the repair I can see that being a clutch replacement.

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What exactly is the transmission doing? Is it not going into gear, or is it just not moving. If the tractor has been sitting outside it could be that the clutch is just stuck.
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they backed it in to connect to a bailer and went to pull forward and they had nothing. No gear, no pto basicly nothing from the clutch back.

I Found some info on the input shafts going bad in them and there are no replacements. In checking around though there is a way to repair the old shafts. Not sure if this is the problem or not.

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Sorry I can't help you. I have never had a tractor do that to me, and I have never even hear of it. Seems strange that it went out all of the sudden though.
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Get ahold of CJDave, he'll send the moonguys to look at the transmission. In all honesty, he writes articles for tractor mags.
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Jeff is it a hydrostat trans

If it is i know of two loaders that did that same thing. Backedup and no more forward. If i remember right it had something to do the the release arm that would let you pull it with it not running

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It should be older than when they used hydrostatic transmissions. There are several possibilities:

4 speed (with or without pto)
4 speed with live pto
5 speed (with or without pto)
5 speed with live pto
select-o-speed

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It is a select-o-speed.

I looked at it today and decided to buy it. I have half scrap price in it to start so I can always make my money back.

I have found that the selecot matic is known for stripped clutch/input shaft splines. The way this one acts that is likely what happened. There is no power of any srt behind the clutch. I am going to get it some time the first of the week and want to get on fixing it or sending it to the scrap yard.

Bad part is that input shaft replacement is 2000.00 from ford. I got lucky and found a few online. If that dosen't work I will likely have this one remaned.

advice is always welcome.

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4000 has a wet clutch, so 'Stuck' usually isn't the problem.
After a long period to time, the material used to come off the discs, and that does require splitting the tractor.
If you have time and patients (and a couple of really good jack stands) you can do it yourself pretty easily.
Buy a manual at the local farm equipment store and have a look at the project, it's actually more simple than you think.
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The book I have on it talks about a coupling that connects the transmission output to the pinion shaft. This coupling can be disengaged to allow the tractor to be moved with the engine off as bands 2 and 3 are mechanically engaged without the engine to prevent the tractor from rolling. It is a shaft next to a dipstick but not sure which side of the transmission it is on. It should be near the connection to the axle on a round plate held on with 6 bolts with the dipstick in it. If that coupling is disengaged, there would be no power to the rear axle.

From what I can tell, the SOS does not use a clutch either.

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